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From: gadfly@ihuxn.UUCP (Gadfly)
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Subject: Re: Adam Reed's attack on Jews (sorry if duplicate)
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Date: Fri, 14-Feb-86 17:05:18 EST
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Posted: Fri Feb 14 17:05:18 1986
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> Bob Brown (hi Bob) equated the Holocaust with the current putting to
> death of the life in the womb...
   
> Reed says:
>                         
> As a son of survivors, Mr. Brown, I find your attempt to trivialize the
> Holocaust, in which my older brother, all my grandparents and
> great-grandparents, and too many other relatives to count, were murdered
> by militant bigots, offensive and uncalled for. I am disgusted by your
> practice of posting your bigotry to net.religion.jewish.
> 
>            ****  Wellllll, how could Mr. Reed have missed the point of 
> Bob Brown and those who are Pro-Life that abortion is NOT TRIVIAL!!! ...
>                     So I claim you Mr. Reed are an anti-semtic bigot!  But
> your points are too silly to be successful.  Your attack on Jews has failed.
> 
> Ken Arndt

I guess that makes me an anti-semitic bigot, too, Ken.  God, I admire
your chutzpah.

As you know, Ken, the whole debate revolves not around whether the
fetus is human (what the hell else could it be?), but whether it is
a person.  What, indeed, is a person?  I submit that people can have
honest albeit heated disagreement over the definition of "person".
Mr. Reed was alluding to Jewish writings on just that subject.
And not all persons have a "right" to life anyway.  The best you can
state, Ken, is that a fetus may have some *claim* to life, just as
Princess Margaret has some *claim* to the English throne.  Claims are
not rights, and are not absolute.  Someone else may have a better one,
and these circumstances change.

But you don't really care, Ken.  All you want to do is proselytize
for your close-minded dogma which may not be questioned.  It is not
in the Jewish tradition to behave this way.  Thus, your obnoxious
though exuberant dreck does not belong in net.religion.jewish.  You
clearly don't have the saychel to leave; I hope you at least have
the manners.
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