Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84 exptools; site ihuxn.UUCP Path: utzoo!lsuc!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!ihnp4!ihuxn!gadfly From: gadfly@ihuxn.UUCP (Gadfly) Newsgroups: net.religion.jewish Subject: Re: Adam Reed's attack on Jews Message-ID: <1344@ihuxn.UUCP> Date: Sun, 16-Feb-86 21:42:52 EST Article-I.D.: ihuxn.1344 Posted: Sun Feb 16 21:42:52 1986 Date-Received: Mon, 17-Feb-86 21:09:11 EST References: <958@decwrl.DEC.COM> <1340@ihuxn.UUCP> <995@unc.unc.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Lines: 28 -- > For reasons I won't state here, I believe the analogy between the > holocaust and abortion is weak. Nevertheless, I suspect that Ken's > "close-minded dogma" is much closer to classic rabbinical thinking > than your own "modernism." > > Frank Silbermann I doubt it, and refer to the discussion of nefesh that has been going on. Abortion is certainly a bad thing in the Halachic tradition, but I don't think it is ever classified as murder. And the mother's life figures prominently in the consideration (viz: it may be bad because the mother might be putting her own life in danger in some abortions). There are certainly many factors to weigh. The distinction may not be significant, though. I think the larger distinction between Arndt and Halacha is the context. If Arndt would preface his arguments with a note that behaviors he disapproves of are un-*Christian*, instead of generic monstrous evil, your point would be better taken. When I stated that Ken's behavior was inappropriate for n.r.j, it was because Jews discuss what is appropriate for Jews. We do not proselytize a morality (or worse, secular legislation) to which everybody must submit. -- *** *** JE MAINTIENDRAI ***** ***** ****** ****** 16 Feb 86 [28 Pluviose An CXCIV] ken perlow ***** ***** (312)979-7753 ** ** ** ** ..ihnp4!iwsl8!ken *** ***