Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84 SMI; site sun.uucp Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!decwrl!sun!guy From: guy@sun.uucp (Guy Harris) Newsgroups: net.rumor Subject: Re: Computer Horror Stories Message-ID: <3313@sun.uucp> Date: Sun, 2-Mar-86 23:18:04 EST Article-I.D.: sun.3313 Posted: Sun Mar 2 23:18:04 1986 Date-Received: Tue, 4-Mar-86 04:23:21 EST References: <1215@brl-smoke.ARPA> <5027@alice.uUCp> <366@ucbjade.BERKELEY.EDU> <143@simon_pc.UUCP> <544@scgvaxd.UUCP> Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc. Lines: 26 > ...VMS marks the disk for dismount but doesn't dismount it 'cause it's got > a file open on it. Close the last file and it'll dismount oh-so-gracefully. > ...I suppose you'd rather have it mung the filesystem 'cause fsck is so > exciting to run? Ahem. If this was intended as a slam against UNIX, it's misdirected. UNIX will refuse to dismount a file system which has open files on it. (Locally opened, anyway; since Sun's NFS is stateless, a machine doesn't know whether anybody on another machine has files opened on a given file system, and will let you dismount that file system. Then again, since Sun's NFS is stateless, the only effect of that is to cause all subsequent I/O to that file system to get "Stale file handle" errors; the file system isn't corrupted, although if the program's response to such an error isn't to ask that the file system be remounted and keep trying the operation - if the file system is remounted, one of the retries will succeed and the program can take up where it left off - the file it's working on could become corrupted.) Now that we've corrected all errors in these postings, shall we return to posting true horror stories? (Which may not, strictly speaking, be rumors, but are quite entertaining nonetheless; as Ralph Waldo Emerson said, "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds.") -- Guy Harris {ihnp4, decvax, seismo, decwrl, ...}!sun!guy guy@sun.arpa (yes, really)