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From: ee178acg@sdcc7.UUCP (Harry Snyder)
Newsgroups: net.singles
Subject: Re: Titles
Message-ID: <276@sdcc7.UUCP>
Date: Sat, 15-Feb-86 23:26:08 EST
Article-I.D.: sdcc7.276
Posted: Sat Feb 15 23:26:08 1986
Date-Received: Mon, 17-Feb-86 06:03:53 EST
References: <4514@kestrel.ARPA> <3407@nsc.UUCP>
Organization: U.C. San Diego, Academic Computer Center
Lines: 36
Keywords: Computer Science, Bullshit about degrees
Summary: Hot programmers without degrees?

In article <3407@nsc.UUCP>, freak@nsc.UUCP (Curt Mayer) writes:
> In article <4514@kestrel.ARPA> ladkin@kestrel.ARPA writes:
> >I teach lots of people who are professional programmers, getting CS degrees. 
> >It would be contrary to my experience to assume that professional programmers
> >without CS degrees are likely to be better programmers.
> >
> >Suggesting that CS degrees aren't worth much to programmers is just plain
> >silly. There is `science' in Computer Science, not just coding.
> >
> >Peter Ladkin
> 
> It has been my experience that CS professors haven't the foggiest idea what
> the industry needs.
> I have seen to many 'Instant' CS degree programmers who need a year or so
> of ramp up time in a programming job before they even produce line 1 of
> useable, production quality code.
> A random hacker grade programmer of high school age is worth 5 brand new
> CS degree-oids.
> Note that ALL the awesomely hot programmers I know do not have degrees.
> 
> 	curt

   It's been my experience that CS professors know a hell of a lot
   more about computers than you'll ever know.  Maybe if you
   understood more about computers you would know what a "hot"
   programmer really is.  Come on, a high school programmer? 

   You can't tell me some kid playing at home with his Apple knows
   more about computers than someone with a degree. Being able to
   program a video game does not make a Computer Scientist.

   Also, 4 or more years of studying hard is not 'Instant'. 


				   harry,
				   A pissed off college student.