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From: ee178acg@sdcc7.UUCP (Harry Snyder)
Newsgroups: net.singles
Subject: Re: Titles
Message-ID: <283@sdcc7.UUCP>
Date: Sat, 22-Feb-86 23:09:48 EST
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Posted: Sat Feb 22 23:09:48 1986
Date-Received: Wed, 26-Feb-86 04:19:44 EST
References: <4514@kestrel.ARPA> <3407@nsc.UUCP> <276@sdcc7.UUCP> <499@tekig5.UUCP>
Organization: U.C. San Diego, Academic Computer Center
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Summary: More on degrees, high school programmers, etc.

curt writes:

> > > A random hacker grade programmer of high school age is worth 5 brand new
> > > CS degree-oids.
> > > Note that ALL the awesomely hot programmers I know do not have degrees.
> > > 	curt
> 
I originally replied:

> >      Come on, a high school programmer? 
> >    You can't tell me some kid playing at home with his Apple knows
> >    more about computers than someone with a degree. Being able to
> >    program a video game does not make a Computer Scientist.
> > 				   harry,
> > 				   A pissed off college student.


In article <499@tekig5.UUCP>, abeaver@tekig5.UUCP (Annadiana Beaver) writes:
>    Sorry, Harry, I have to agree with Curt.  If the kid is like my son,
>    who has just started High School.  He spent part of his 8th grade
>    year teaching his programming teacher some new tricks. - he tricked
>    his teacher and then told him later about what he had done.-  The
>    school even gave him a certificate for his achievements.  He had been
>    helping the other kids in class.
>    You have to understand though...   He has been into comuters for over
>    5 years.  No, he doesn't program in C yet, but he does work with 
>    machine code, as well as basic.
>    
> 	abeaver@tektronix


      Well I hate to tell you this, but my brother is in 7th grade
	and is also a good student, (certificates in computer
	classes,etc) but he still does not "know" about computers.  

        There's a lot more to computers than knowing little tricks
        and being able to program in Basic or whatever language you
        choose.  It's pretty sad that the general public is still
	so computer illiterate, but some day that will change.

	I'm glad you're proud of your son, and I'm sure he does well
	in his computer class. But again, there's more to computers
	than knowing computer languages.

        A junior high school teacher in computers (notice I didn't say
	computer science)  usually does not know much about them.
	Most likely they didn't major in anything close, and they
	probably know less about them than most first year computer
	science students. 

      
					Harry