Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site mtx5a.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!bellcore!petrus!sabre!zeta!epsilon!gamma!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!whuxl!whuxlm!akgua!akguc!mtunh!mtung!mtunf!mtx5c!mtx5d!mtx5a!mat From: mat@mtx5a.UUCP (m.terribile) Newsgroups: net.women,net.singles Subject: Re: Re: Gregg Mackenzie on the elimination of Cheryl (FLAME) Message-ID: <1205@mtx5a.UUCP> Date: Sat, 22-Feb-86 02:51:58 EST Article-I.D.: mtx5a.1205 Posted: Sat Feb 22 02:51:58 1986 Date-Received: Wed, 26-Feb-86 06:27:57 EST References: <125@ttidcc.UUCP> <215@batcomputer.TN.CORNELL.EDU> Organization: AT&T Information Systems, Middletown, NJ 07748-4801. Lines: 53 Xref: linus net.women:8874 net.singles:9408 > >>> That's just because it's all a subversive plot and we're all against > >>> you. We've all come to realize that Cheryl is the only one who > >>> *really* knows what's going on in our (men's) sick, twisted little > >>> minds. The only thing we can do now is eliminate Cheryl and hope > >>> she hasn't spread the truth too far. We're gonna get you Cheryl. > >>> You can't hide .... our people are everywhere... . . . > > "Don't take the world so seriously, little girl", the big > man said. "If you do, we'll only make fun of you and laugh > at you. We'll make pretend death threats on you, and say, > 'it was only a joke,' when you or your friends get upset." > > Hey, Gregg only proves himself to be a class-1 Jerk. You > think that bothers me? I never claimed there was a > conspiracy -- only cultural biases shared by men & women > which serve to keep women down, and which must be openly > argued against if women are to make the transition from > down to up. . . > Cheryl Sigh. Cheryl, Gregg's posting was obviously in poor taste. Before you OR Gregg post another thing on this group, please go out and get a copy of ``The Gentle Art of Verbal Self-Defense'' by Suzette Haden Elgin (Dorset Press) This whole thing is a grand case of two (or more) people who are talking right past each other because they are talking in two different languages using the same words. Gregg's reply was a tease, a choice bit of bait for your anger. You were expected to ignore it and find another way to retaliate. While it stung you, it was just another example of the crap that males in our society learn to give and take. You took it as a personal insult, in effect grabbing his knife and stabbing yourself through the heart with it. By coming into the arena with an axe to grind, and then grinding it at the top of your lungs, you invited, in the eyes of someone trained to ``take it, don't whine'', a few smart-ass remarks. Gregg, this is net.women . It is NOT net.let's.show.the.women.how. to.be.real.men . While Cheryl has been kicking someone who is down, SHE doesn't see it that way. And she is not likely to respond well to the crap that we throw at each other to show us how messed up each other's poositions are. You call it ``no sense of humor''. She calls it dangerous and an immediate threat. Neither of you understands where in the hell the other is coming from. -- from Mole End Mark Terribile (scrape .. dig ) mtx5b!mat (Please mail to mtx5b!mat, NOT mtx5a! mat, or to mtx5a!mtx5b!mat) ,.. .,, ,,, ..,***_*.