Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!ucbvax!space From: REM@MC.LCS.MIT.EDU (Robert Elton Maas) Newsgroups: net.space Subject: alchemy not needed for Titanium from lunar soil Message-ID: <8602171205.AA29281@s1-b.arpa> Date: Mon, 17-Feb-86 07:05:07 EST Article-I.D.: s1-b.8602171205.AA29281 Posted: Mon Feb 17 07:05:07 1986 Date-Received: Fri, 21-Feb-86 04:07:17 EST Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: REM%IMSSS@SU-SCORE.ARPA Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 20 R> Date: 4 Feb 86 23:09:01 GMT R> From: ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!hropus!riccb!rjnoe@ucbvax.berkeley.edu (Roge r J. Noe) R> Subject: Re: Remotely Controlled Manipulators in Space R> ... R> What, you just drop it on the lunar surface and it installs itself? R> That would be multiplying the complexity of the thing considerably. R> And of course you build in a Junior Alchemy set so that it can transform R> lunar soil into titanium. Oh, not impossible maybe, but certainly R> a couple centuries into the future. And many quadrillions of dollars. Don't be an ignorant smartass! Surveys from the Apollo sampling expeditions show lunar soil to be quite rich by earth standards, if I recall correctly a few percent? With abundant sunlight for energy, abundant free soil to process, and abundant unused real-estate to dump the unwanted portions (mostly oxygen silicon and aluminum if I remember correctly), we could set up a titanium production plant within ten years if we had funding. We can be very sloppy, recovering only half the titanium in the soil and dumping the rest with the waste materials, thus simplifying the engineering and chemistry. There's no need for alchemy, simple inorganic chemistry and electrolysys will do it.