Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!ucbvax!space From: dietz@SLB-DOLL.CSNET (Paul Dietz) Newsgroups: net.space Subject: Re: Scuttle the Shuttle? Message-ID: <8602171539.AA01195@s1-b.arpa> Date: Mon, 17-Feb-86 07:53:41 EST Article-I.D.: s1-b.8602171539.AA01195 Posted: Mon Feb 17 07:53:41 1986 Date-Received: Fri, 21-Feb-86 04:08:07 EST Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 18 Several people have criticized my statements on manned vs. unmanned space activities, saying that robots can't replace people. Reading my messages, you'll see I explicitly talked about *teleoperators*, which give you many of the advantages of people (creativity, visual input, reasoning abilities) without actually having to put people in space. You still need people, but a skilled person on the ground costs perhaps $100,000/year; in the space station, $100 million/year. Also, someone lampooned the idea of self-replicating teleoperated machines on the moon. Of course I didn't mean autonomous self replicating machines (we're nowhere near being able to build those) but rather teleoperated machines that build (say) 95% of the components needed for more teleoperators/milling machines/etc. from lunar materials, with complex but lightweight parts (integrated circuits, drill bits, etc.) being imported from earth. Most of the mass in a machine tool is in structural metal, which shouldn't be impossible to build by remote control.