Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!lll-crg!ucdavis!ucbvax!space From: hester@ICSE.UCI.EDU (Jim Hester) Newsgroups: net.space Subject: Re: Why does everyone want to leave this planet? Message-ID: <8602201914.AA24259@s1-b.arpa> Date: Thu, 20-Feb-86 14:13:10 EST Article-I.D.: s1-b.8602201914.AA24259 Posted: Thu Feb 20 14:13:10 1986 Date-Received: Sun, 23-Feb-86 18:53:44 EST Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: hester@ICSE.UCI.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 71 The fact that Earth is the home of mankind is no argument to stay here. Tell me, do you still live in the home in which you were born? I don't mean to imply anything wrong with that, but it is certainly not the norm. America would be considerably different if all those colonists and explorers had stayed home. Assuming we agree that "home" should not be left, how do we define "home": house, neighborhood, country, continent, planet, solar system, ...? You define it as "planet". Others see it differently, from "house" up to "home is where the heart is", i.e., "everywhere we are capable of reaching and choose to settle." Migration probably will not be a serious issue at any time. It will be a long time, if ever, before mass human space transport is feasible. Also, history shows that there are seldom a large percentage of a population who want to leave their home country even when they know that the destination can support human life---consider how few would move to a planet which sustains life artificially! Damn few, for any other planet in this solar system. Possibly a few more if we ever discover an Earth-like planet (or tarraform one), and can transport people (frozen?), but that's a long way down the road and still probably less people would go for it than any migration in history. Colonization, however, is an entirely different matter. A small number can go, to reproduce and build their own world. This is the tried and true method used down the ages. There are several potential advantages to the race (i.e., us guys who are happy to stay at home): advancements in science, economy (trading for either natural or manufactured materials of other worlds), culture (interactive and artistic), and safety (get all mankind's eggs out of one basket, which some will argue is a bit precariously balanced at present). As to why any given individual might want to go, you just about answered it yourself. You are interested in the undiscovered vistas here on Earth. Others are interested in other vistas. One reason to leave is that we have been here long enough that most of these require intense study to even prepare to begin discovering new things. Alternately, study of the wild regions on Earth costs a lot (less, if you have enough degrees to get someone to sponsor you). Some people might like an environment where EVERYTHING is unknown, rather than searching out the unknown. There will also be those who don't get along with their envoronment and wish to start somewhere fresh, out of reach of their past (some criminals, perhaps, but others with emotional reasons as well). Still others may answer you argument with your argument: Yes, there is plenty to learn here on Earth. There is also plenty to learn elsewhere. Since you are already working on Earth, they wish to work on the other areas. As I have already pointed out, there is nothing magical about Earth as more interesting than anywhere else, except in personal opinion and probably some religions. In short, it's basically a matter of personal preference. With no offense intended, your arguement is basically a combination of apathy and arrogence, both very mild. Apathy in that you question the value of reaching for more than we currently have, just because you are satisfied with your lot. Arrogence in that, although you claim to admit some value in interests which are low on your priorities, you effectively devalue them by refusing to respect others who place these interests ahead of those you consider more important. It's well and good to have your own preferences and to be happy to let the others follow their own dreams. But you need not belittle their preferences just because they are not the same as yours, with statements to the effect that you would happy to be rid of such people. This kind of thing makes you one of the reasons they might want to leave. Let them go or not as they choose, but do not imply that their interests make them less than you, such that you gain by their simple abscence. I consider the abscence of most adventurous people a loss to people like you who want to learn more about Earth, but most likely well reimbursed by the accomplishments that they will share with those of us who stay behind. Jim Hester - a groundhog who respects and values non-groundhogs