Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!lll-crg!lll-lcc!ucdavis!ucbvax!space From: space@ucbvax.UUCP Newsgroups: net.space Subject: Re: Shuttle Program Message-ID: <8602211720.AA13425@pesnta.UUCP> Date: Fri, 21-Feb-86 11:20:35 EST Article-I.D.: pesnta.8602211720.AA13425 Posted: Fri Feb 21 11:20:35 1986 Date-Received: Mon, 24-Feb-86 07:02:00 EST References: <8602180507.AA06619@s1-b.arpa> Sender: usenet@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: CONCURRENT Computer Corporation Lines: 27 In article <8602180507.AA06619@s1-b.arpa> you write: >The discussion of the farther future has been somewhat divorced from >reality. A Transatmospheric Vehicle (TAV, Orient Express) will barely be >available to the military in 10 years. Shuttle quality service is probably >much farther away. Consequently if a new shuttle is built, it will see >plenty of use before something better comes along. Those discussing >teleoperators might want to wander down to the lab some day and look at the >manipulators available, and the current rate of progress. People are going >to be needed for a good long time for many tasks. On almost every SpaceLab >mission, equipment repairs were necessary. On the last mission, the JPL >scientist doing some suspended fluid experiments in equipment he designed >had to spend the better part of a day upside down inside the machine fixing ^^^^^^^^^^^ Did you really mean that or was it a Freudian slip? I mean after all, how does one determine up or down without gravity? >it. It is silly to talk about manned versus unmanned as an either/or >proposition. Both have their good and bad points. Machines are cheap but >not too flexible. They can handle all the simple tasks. Men are expensive >but very flexible. They can handle the messy cases, which are unfortunately >not all that rare. As I pointed out in a New York Times letter a while ago, >one reason for having a space station is the cost of launches. It might >be cheaper over the long run to have a space station with infrequent >launches compared to no space station and more frequent launches. Kim Althoff ihnp4!pesnta!kima