Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!lll-crg!lll-lcc!ucdavis!ucbvax!space From: dietz@SLB-DOLL.CSNET (Paul Dietz) Newsgroups: net.space Subject: Re: Most Dangerous: Launch or Landing? Message-ID: <8602241623.AA01553@s1-b.arpa> Date: Mon, 24-Feb-86 10:25:46 EST Article-I.D.: s1-b.8602241623.AA01553 Posted: Mon Feb 24 10:25:46 1986 Date-Received: Wed, 26-Feb-86 20:10:49 EST Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 20 Did the RAND study say the dangerous part of landing was the reentry or the touchdown? I wonder what the chances of disaster are if a tile comes off the bottom of the orbiter. The shuttle's problem may be that recognized flaws are difficult to fix, not just that there are many low probability unknown flaws. For example, it's known that there's no abort mode for the first two minutes of flight, but this is a fundamental feature of the shuttle design and cannot be easily changed. One flaw I worry about during liftoffs is catastrophic failure of the SSME turbopumps. These pumps have suffered from cavitation on previous flights; if one of the pumps were to fly apart high velocity metal fragments could go flying through the engine compartment. This was one early speculation about the Challenger accident (since discarded). Continuing upgrades of the shuttle make extrapolations of reliability suspect. For example, if and when the SSME's are upgraded to 109% of rated thrust we won't be able to use previous flights as indicators of their reliability.