Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!ucbvax!space From: KFL@MC.LCS.MIT.EDU ("Keith F. Lynch") Newsgroups: net.space Subject: Long-Term Viability Message-ID: <[MC.LCS.MIT.EDU].830796.860225.KFL> Date: Tue, 25-Feb-86 22:28:11 EST Article-I.D.: <[MC.LCS.MIT.EDU].830796.860225.KFL> Posted: Tue Feb 25 22:28:11 1986 Date-Received: Fri, 28-Feb-86 06:41:22 EST Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 33 From: brahms!gsmith@ucbvax.berkeley.edu (Gene Ward Smith) I'm confused -- do you have a high faith in scientific and technical advancement, or a very low one? It seems you adopt either point of view to suit your convenience. High technology without space colonization cannot save us. If we get all our energy by burning fuels which put carbon dioxide into the Earth's atmosphere, we can't then simply remove the carbon dioxide and convert it back into oxygen and carbon. If we mine all our raw materials here on Earth, forests and other ecosystems will suffer. If our increasing population all lives on Earth, there will be less room for other creatures. If all our wastes are left on Earth, we will have a horrible pollution problem. This is true no matter how good our technology. Oooh --- it sounds so easy! We'll just roll out to the stars (THATS not hard) and live forever. Why do I find it strange to think that if you have just proven it impossible to do on the earth, it should be so easy somewhere else? Nobody said it would be easy. It's not a matter of 'somewhaere else' but of 'everywhere at once'. The solar system alone can support a population of over ten to the twentieth. The galaxy, perhaps ten to the thirtieth. ... Some of you seem to think you are going to wish yourself to Epsilon Eridani. "If you wish upon a star ... " Nobody said star travel would be easy. Just preferable to the alternatives. ...Keith