Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site mmm.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!stolaf!mmm!mrgofor From: mrgofor@mmm.UUCP (MKR) Newsgroups: net.columbia,net.space Subject: Re: Morton-Thiokol Engineering Claims Message-ID: <564@mmm.UUCP> Date: Wed, 26-Feb-86 12:20:26 EST Article-I.D.: mmm.564 Posted: Wed Feb 26 12:20:26 1986 Date-Received: Fri, 28-Feb-86 22:23:02 EST References: <1301@decwrl.DEC.COM> Reply-To: mrgofor@mmm.UUCP (MKR) Organization: none Lines: 41 Xref: watmath net.columbia:2511 net.space:6089 In article <1301@decwrl.DEC.COM> eros@chovax.DEC writes: > > Over the last few days, engineers at Morton-Thiokol have been falling > all over one another to express how sure they were that the O-rings > on the SRBs would fail during launch and how schedule-minded and > inflexible NASA management was about delaying the mission. > > This brings up an interesting question - if these folks were > so sure of the danger to the SRBs (in fact, one senior engineer said > that he and other engineers expressed surprise at launch time that > Challenger cleared the tower without incident) why didn't they go > to the media with their concerns? > > Tony Eros > !decwrl!chovax!eros If the MT engineers were 75% sure that the shuttle would not make it, would that justify "going to the media" (aka "going over their bosses' heads")? What, then, if the 25% chance happened and all went well? They'd be in the bread lines, that's what. The bosses made the decisions, and at some point, you have to acknowledge the authority of those "in power". You really don't want that sort of anarchy going on in a company that handles such sensitive ventures as this. You want to invest the authority in the right people and in the right decision-making systems, and follow those rules. It seems to me that the problem came in that the decision-making power was in the wrong hands. It should have been more responsive to the engineers, who are closer to the real-life physical laws at work, rather than resting ultimately with paper-pushing private-sector politicians whose main concern is appearances rather than substance. To blame the engineers for not risking their (and their families') future and security is dependent upon what they saw as the likelyhood of a mishap. If it was 90% or more, perhaps I would agree with you. If it was 50% or below, you're asking those engineers to toss a coin over their own asses. After all, they *did* make their objections known to the right people. -- --MKR There is none so blind as he who cannot see.