Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!ucbvax!space From: Slocum@HI-MULTICS.ARPA (Brett Slocum) Newsgroups: net.space Subject: Re: plutonium Message-ID: <860303165814.950167@HI-MULTICS.ARPA> Date: Mon, 3-Mar-86 11:58:00 EST Article-I.D.: HI-MULTI.860303165814.950167 Posted: Mon Mar 3 11:58:00 1986 Date-Received: Wed, 5-Mar-86 04:04:15 EST Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 40 Now, sarcasm aside. In regards to the plutonium question, I should have stated that plutonium is a rather poisonous substance, not the most poisonous. Since few studies have been done since the 50's due to lack of government interest and money and volunteers, it is difficult to exactly determine the toxicity. I tend to take potential risks seriously, unlike the NASA and MT management (and some readers of this forum) appear to. I don't buy the harmlessness of dropping radioactive materials into the ocean. Yes, the United States did it for a while (and stopped), and Britain is still doing it, but there have been problems from this activity. Areas in coastal Ireland, which is the closest land area to the British dumping area, have reported very high incidences of cancer, attributable to the dumping activity. Also, some of the material has been found as far away as Scandinavia. Now, I realise that the amount involved in dumping are high, but the material is put into steel or lead casks and supposedly remains intact. In the case of the shuttle, most of the material may remain intact, but some will not, and little of it would be as well protected as the dumping casks. As far as the death of thousands, I'm not talking about dying instantly or even in a month from the accident. I'm talking ten years down the road. Cancer works that way. In reference to hysteria, I find the negative responses to my original posting to show a remarkable level of propaganda in the opposite direction. They seem to be saying "No experts believe plutonium to be exceptionally dangerous", "No additional deaths would occur", "Nobody has ever died from atmospheric releases of plutonium", "It's safe to dump it in the ocean", etc. with as little to back them up as I did. They sound like spokespersons for Kerr-McGee or the rest of the nuclear power industry or the U.S. government. Now, I hope that we can leave this topic alone and move on to other things. -- Brett Slocum P.S. My reference was not the National Enquirer, but The Nation, which is respected, but somewhat anti-nuclear.