Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!bellcore!decvax!genrad!panda!talcott!harvard!seismo!ut-sally!utastro!ethan From: ethan@utastro.UUCP (Ethan Vishniac) Newsgroups: net.space Subject: Re: Clumping doesn't fix Olber's paradox Message-ID: <465@utastro.UUCP> Date: Tue, 4-Mar-86 16:16:56 EST Article-I.D.: utastro.465 Posted: Tue Mar 4 16:16:56 1986 Date-Received: Fri, 7-Mar-86 05:49:44 EST References: <8603041333.AA12454@s1-b.arpa> Organization: U. Texas, Astronomy, Austin, TX Lines: 23 Summary: yes it does In article <8603041333.AA12454@s1-b.arpa>, JOSH@YKTVMH.BITNET ("Josh Knight") writes: > > > I don't think clumping, no matter what its statistical characteristics > can avoid the paradox. Basically, if one extends one's line of sight > far enough, one finds it ending up on a star, i.e. the entire surface > is covered with star surface. At this point it is only surface brightness > that matters. Olber's paradox is "why is the night sky dark" not "why > is the sky not infinitely bright". The point that one`s line of sight always ends on a star is in fact sensitive to the nature of the clustering. If the clustering is arranged hierarchically, with a suitable fractal dimension, then the average line of sight *will not* end on a star. It is not a question of placing the observer at the center of the universe, any random position *in a galaxy* will have this property. Nevertheless, such models are unsatisfactory for other reasons. -- "Ma, I've been to another Ethan Vishniac planet!" {charm,ut-sally,ut-ngp,noao}!utastro!ethan ethan@astro.UTEXAS.EDU Department of Astronomy University of Texas