Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: Notesfiles $Revision: 1.7.0.10 $; site uiucdcs Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxn!ihnp4!inuxc!pur-ee!uiucdcs!friedman From: friedman@uiucdcs.CS.UIUC.EDU Newsgroups: net.startrek Subject: re: Original Star Trek Episode Message-ID: <24900125@uiucdcs> Date: Tue, 4-Mar-86 10:29:00 EST Article-I.D.: uiucdcs.24900125 Posted: Tue Mar 4 10:29:00 1986 Date-Received: Fri, 7-Mar-86 04:16:50 EST References: <1360@decwrl.DEC.COM> Lines: 35 Nf-ID: #R:decwrl.DEC.COM:1360:uiucdcs:24900125:000:1822 Nf-From: uiucdcs.CS.UIUC.EDU!friedman Mar 4 09:29:00 1986 > I attended a talk by Gene Rodenberyy in Cleveland a few years ago, and > he concluded by showing The Cage in its entirety. It was actually a bit > disappointing, because I dont believe anything (at least nothing > consequential) was cut when they made "The Menagerie", so there was nothing > new. If you've seen The Menagerie, you've seen The Cage. Incidently the > film I saw was in black and white. > from: dayoung@hplabs Doug Young, HPLABS, Palo Alto I also have attended one of GR's talks, and seen the B&W print of The Cage. I suppose it's the same one he shows most any time he gives a ST talk. But if you didn't notice any "new" scenes, you missed out, assuming you saw the same thing I saw. (Or maybe your judgement about what is "consequential" is different from mine.) The scene that stands out in my mind is a scene on the Enterprise bridge after the attempt to beam down to the planet, when the women were transported and the men were left behind. A very excited (emotional!) Spock decides that it is too dangerous to remain in orbit around Talos IV, and orders the ship to leave. I vaguely recall that they then lost power, and so were unable to leave orbit. Then later, when the women beam back (after the final scene on the planet surface), someone says "Mr. Spock, systems are coming on." (Or something close to that.) In The Menagerie, that remark never quite seemed to make sense; this bridge scene puts it into its proper context. H. George Friedman, Jr. Department of Computer Science University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign 1304 West Springfield Avenue Urbana, Illinois 61801 USENET: ...!{pur-ee,ihnp4,convex}!uiucdcs!friedman CSNET: friedman%uiuc@csnet-relay.arpa ARPA: friedman@uiuc.arpa