Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site alice.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!bellcore!ulysses!allegra!alice!bart From: bart@alice.UucP (Bart N. Locanthi) Newsgroups: net.suicide Subject: painless suicide Message-ID: <5025@alice.uUCp> Date: Sat, 22-Feb-86 16:40:46 EST Article-I.D.: alice.5025 Posted: Sat Feb 22 16:40:46 1986 Date-Received: Mon, 24-Feb-86 08:34:19 EST Organization: Bell Labs, Murray Hill Lines: 30 an interesting question, that of discovering a truly painless method for suicide. but it raises more questions, the most obvious being what metric to judge pain by. it seems to me that the most useful one would be some kind of pain-time product - ripping a band-aid (tm) off quickly is instantaneously more painful then pulling it off slowly, yet the pain fades quickly enough that most (brave) folk with hair elect for the quick rip method. then of course there is the matter of anticipation. opening a blood vessel can't be very painful but you have to watch all your blood flow out and go through the various stages of wooziness. is that painful? jumping off a building isn't at all painful (unless you develop nausea on the way down) and the fact that impact must hurt like hell should be mitigated by the shortness of the event. and depending on your makeup, the fall could be exhilarating (how many people do you suppose thought it would be a once-in-a-lifetime (sic) thrill only to realize on the way down they could have done it with a parachute?). is that exhilaration a fair balance for the ensuing pain? maybe someone should interview failed suicides to get a reading on just how much pain they endured. i'm sure the information would be useful, even though 1) most living suicides haven't tried several methods and therefore would not be able to compare results, 2) "living suicide" being an oxymoron, one can't really find out about the pain level of dying without actually dying, 3) a failed suicide may be too embarrassed to report honestly, and 4) one who is unbalanced enough to attempt suicide may not be able to give a rational analysis of the experience.