Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!bellcore!decvax!genrad!panda!talcott!harvard!seismo!rochester!bullwinkle!batcomputer!garry From: garry@batcomputer.TN.CORNELL.EDU (Garry Wiegand) Newsgroups: net.suicide,net.college Subject: Re: info on depression, and helping a friend (query) Message-ID: <299@batcomputer.TN.CORNELL.EDU> Date: Mon, 3-Mar-86 00:04:23 EST Article-I.D.: batcompu.299 Posted: Mon Mar 3 00:04:23 1986 Date-Received: Fri, 7-Mar-86 07:08:02 EST Reply-To: garry%geology@cu-arpa.cornell.edu.arpa Organization: Cornell Engineering && Flying Moose Graphics Lines: 31 Xref: watmath net.suicide:862 net.college:1191 With reference to the graduate student friend who feels inadequate/ incompetent/confused and is becoming depressed [public posting requested]: I've been there! Beating your head against the wall doesn't help! After a certain point things start becoming self-fulfilling - you don't work well, you feel bad about it, you avoid work, you acquire guilt/indequacy feelings, so you don't like work, so you don't work well... It's a nasty cycle. !!TAKE A LEAVE OF ABSENCE!! The sky will not fall! Your school will not tell you you're an Evil human being (if they do, they're more fouled up than you are.) If you present it just as something you Have To Do, parents/advisers/administrators can be surprisingly supportive - you've got some respect accumulated by having made it as far as you have (even if you feel you haven't done anything "recently" to earn it.) Most graduate schools, if you were worth having to begin with, will cheerfully take you back when you're ready. Ask what the policy is! (One of my old schools took the pleasant position that once you were admitted you were admitted, period, forever.) There may be a problem for a term finding financial aid for you, but I've seen schools scramble on someone's behalf well above and beyond the call of duty. (Maybe they do the scrambling because they like you *more* for having gone away AND come back.) Teach sailing, work in a factory, let your brain cells cool down and straighten themselves out - 12 years plus 4 years plus 5 years can be a long time at one stretch for anybody! I wish someone had told ME this at the right time. Hope it helps. garry wiegand / older and a little wiser garry%cadif-oak@cu-arpa.cs.cornell.edu garry@128.84.253.8 (we're having addressing problems)