Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP
Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site sdcrdcf.UUCP
Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ukma!psuvm.bitnet!psuvax1!burdvax!sdcrdcf!shaprkg
From: shaprkg@sdcrdcf.UUCP (Bob Shapiro)
Newsgroups: net.travel
Subject: Re: travel thru canada (crossing the US/CANADA border)
Message-ID: <2630@sdcrdcf.UUCP>
Date: Mon, 17-Feb-86 16:42:46 EST
Article-I.D.: sdcrdcf.2630
Posted: Mon Feb 17 16:42:46 1986
Date-Received: Wed, 19-Feb-86 01:20:39 EST
References: <1377@garfield.columbia.edu> <10500002@ccvaxa> <2066@utcsri.UUCP> <539@mhuxl.UUCP> <11866@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU>
Reply-To: shaprkg@sdcrdcf.UUCP (Bob Shapiro)
Organization: System Development Corporation R&D, Santa Monica
Lines: 24

In article <11866@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> mazlack@ernie.berkeley.edu.UUCP (Lawrence J. Mazlack) writes:
>>> If a visitor is not a Canadian or American citizen,
>>> a Visa is required.  We have had visitors from HOLLAND land at the
>>> Detroit airport for convenience and require a Visa to get into Canada.
>>
>>I think you mean PASSPORT, not visa.  Usually only third-world and
>>iron-curtain visitors need Visa's.
>
>No, a VISA.  I don't know about Holland, but even the British need Visas.
>I believe that almost everybody does.

   Japan, Australia, and New Zealand all require visas from US citizens.
These are hardly third-world or iron-curtain countries.  I believe that their
reason has more to do with controlling immigration to their country.  Not
only do they require visas, but you have to show proof that you have a means
to leave the country at the end of your visit. (Like a round-trip ticket or
a ticket which is a circle trip, merely makes a stop in their country, and
then continues on).  Typically you have to show proof of this ticket when
you apply for the visa.   I believe that none of the non-iron-curtain
countries of Europe require visas of US citizens. Since these are the prime
places of visitation by Americans, we get lulled into believing that the rest
of the world follows in kind. IT DOESN'T.  The only good rule is to check
the rules for each and every country you plan to visit before you leave. This
information is available from any travel agent or international airline.