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From: urban@spp2.UUCP (Mike Urban)
Newsgroups: net.tv
Subject: Re: Favorite cartoons
Message-ID: <874@spp2.UUCP>
Date: Mon, 3-Mar-86 12:32:25 EST
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Posted: Mon Mar  3 12:32:25 1986
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Organization: TRW, Redondo Beach  CA
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In article <1412@watmath.UUCP> mwtilden@watmath.UUCP (M.W. Tilden, Hardware) writes:
>In article <545@drutx.UUCP> dlo@drutx.UUCP (OlsonDL) writes:
>>Does anybody remember the Max Fletcher (sp?) cartoons of Popeye.  They
>>were fun, and I still marvel at how meticulous the artwork was done.
>>The details, even in the background, was so fine and sharp that you could
>>see individual leaves in the trees, bricks in the buildings, and stones
>>and ruts in the roads.  The perspective gave a real sense of depth.  As
>>scenes are panned, images move as they would in real life.  As I kid, I
>>first saw them in the 50's, but I know they are older than that.  Good
>>stuff.
>>
>>David Olson
>
>The Max Fletcher cartoons had 24 (Count 'em! 24!) frame a second animation
>and some of the best mumbled dialogue (imprompitue?) ever recorded. Popeye
>was ALWAYS talking and some of the things he said were just priceless. 
>
That's "Fleischer", guys.  The background art sometimes *was* done with
models (hence the parallax), and sometime was done with a multi-plane
camera.  Unlike modern cartoons, the animation was put on film first,
and the dialogue added later in the studio as the voice actors watched.
They allowed Jack Mercer (voice of Popeye, who died last year) to
ad lib whenever he liked, which is why Popeye's mouth doesn't move
during the strange mumbles.  Scene in a desert:

"If we had some bread, we could make a sandwich.  If we had a witch."
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