Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site ubc-cs.UUCP Path: utzoo!decvax!tektronix!uw-beaver!ubc-vision!ubc-cs!andrews From: andrews@ubc-cs.UUCP (Jamie Andrews) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: Offensensistivity II Message-ID: <163@ubc-cs.UUCP> Date: Wed, 12-Feb-86 20:30:25 EST Article-I.D.: ubc-cs.163 Posted: Wed Feb 12 20:30:25 1986 Date-Received: Sun, 16-Feb-86 12:01:19 EST References: <8342@ucla-cs.ARPA> <2581@sdcrdcf.UUCP> Reply-To: andrews@ubc-cs.UUCP (Jamie Andrews) Distribution: na Organization: UBC Department of Computer Science, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Lines: 29 In article <2088@watdcsu.UUCP> dmcanzi@watdcsu.UUCP (David Canzi) writes: >You seem to be trying to confirm this theory I have about feminists. >Any line or quote that *can* be interpreted in a manner that is >insulting to women *will* be interpreted in a manner that is insulting >to women... For once I agree somewhat with the venerable Mr. C, but please! not *all* feminists. The issue of whether one uses an "all-inclusive rhetoric" for expressing one's ideas is independent of whether one is a feminist. However, I agree the all-inclusive trend is fairly pervasive in feminism. I once saw a feminist analysis of chess that concluded it was sexist, even though the queen is strong and the king weak, because the queen is sent out to do the dirty work and get killed, and the king is the most important piece! >"Mothers are fonder than fathers of their children because they are more >certain they are their own." -- Aristotle This is one reason why matrilineal societies (e.g. Hopi and other North American Indian societies) have such comparatively easy attitudes toward sex & marital fidelity -- it doesn't matter much *who* the father is, because the kid is going to stay in his/her mother's clan. The uncle- sister's-son relationship thus replaces the father-son relationship as the most important male-male bond, because that pair is the closest in relationship between two males in the same clan, and they know that without all sorts of requirements about marital fidelity. --Jamie. ...!ihnp4!alberta!ubc-vision!ubc-cs!andrews "And then the lighting of the lamps"