Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Path: utzoo!decvax!bellcore!ulysses!cbosgd!ucbvax!dewey.udel.edu!johnson From: johnson@DEWEY.UDEL.EDU (johnson) Newsgroups: mod.ai Subject: Re: The Turing Test - A Third Quantisation? Message-ID: <8603210932.AA02073@ucbvax.berkeley.edu> Date: Fri, 21-Mar-86 04:33:08 EST Article-I.D.: ucbvax.8603210932.AA02073 Posted: Fri Mar 21 04:33:08 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 22-Mar-86 20:14:18 EST Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 25 Approved: ailist@sri-ai.arpa |Now, supposing a system has been built which "passes" the test. Why |not take the process one stage further? Why not try to design an |intelligent system which can decide whether *it* is talking to machine |or not? | |Gordon Joly |ARPA: gcj%qmc-ori@ucl-cs.arpa |UUCP: ...!ukc!qmc-cs!qmc-ori!gcj Let me get this straight, a human cannot distinguish machine M1 from another human, but machine M2 *can* distinguish M1 from a human. Will machines of type M2 then debate about whether it is possible for a human to be modified to pass the M2turing test? Alternatively, perhaps M2s should try to create M3 s.t. an M3 cannot be distinguished from a human by an M2, or how about an M4, which is a machine that an M2 cannot distinguish from an M1? But wait, how can an M2 be sure that an M4 is not simply a copy of an M1? Is some descendent of the turing test a test that which tries to infer the nature of the designer from the design? -johnson@UDEL.EDU