Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Path: utzoo!decvax!ittatc!dcdwest!sdcsvax!ucbvax!usc-isib.arpa!Info-IBMPC From: Info-IBMPC@USC-ISIB.ARPA (Info-IBMPC Digest) Newsgroups: mod.computers.ibm-pc Subject: Info-IBMPC Digest V5 #37 Message-ID: <8603220753.AA22181@ucbvax.berkeley.edu> Date: Fri, 21-Mar-86 19:24:14 EST Article-I.D.: ucbvax.8603220753.AA22181 Posted: Fri Mar 21 19:24:14 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 22-Mar-86 21:19:44 EST Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: INFO-IBMPC@USC-ISIB.ARPA Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 1193 Approved: info-ibmpc@usc-isib.arpa Info-IBMPC Digest Friday, 21 January 1986 Volume 5 : Issue 37 This Week's Editor: Billy Brackenridge Today's Topics: Emacs-style Editors: Epsilon Wins PROINDEX Index Program TOC/Index for WordStar Experiences with Cache Programs on the AT PC/IX Users Survey EGA and Display Write TEMPEST LAN Problem (4 Msgs) "Mobius" and "LanLink" Query IP/TCP More Corrections Regarding AK Technology MS C 3.0 Compiler Bugs Device Drivers and Windows & Running Symphony under Windows When is a Clone a Clone MASM OFFSET Bug (2 Msgs) Program List Fast Cards VDISK Source Listing Documents FAT Interrupt Handlers in Turbo (V5 #20) Today's Queries: FTP Between PC and VM/CMS (2 Msgs) WordPerfect & Epson Proprinter Emulation BSR Board DAVONG multi-function bd. Anchor Automation Volksmodem 1200 Anchor Automation Volksmodem 1200 Automated PC-->Mainframe Sessions Info on MS Mouse Driver for Xenix Changing Cluster Size Microsoft Mouse and Print Spoolers ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 21 Mar 86 17:18:30 +0200 From: enea!tut!jty@seismo.CSS.GOV (Jyrki Yli-Nokari) Subject: Emacs-style Editors: Epsilon Wins I use EPSILON from the Lugaru software regularly and I'm EXTREMELY pleased with it!! I once tried BRIEF but was unable to operate it without the manual and gave up. I've used, first Gosling-emacs and afterwards GNU-emacs extensively. Now that I have access to a pc, I do all my editing in it with epsilon. The major point is that I've never read the manual, since it is very much emacs-compatible. It has concurrent processes, multi windows and you can even have COMMAND.COM in a window (this is the REAL command line editor!!!!). It's also very fast! My version is 2.04, and they have released version 3, which is said to be a lot better. My only arguments are that the beast doesn't support non-american keyboards and you have to do an extensive keyboard remapping. Secondly, the pc-window (sidekick-like utility) doesn't work with it when editing, but is back when you exit the epsilon. Summa Summarum: It's $195 and well worth it! Check out the Lugaru's ad in the latest Dr. Dobbs Journal. The Address is: Lugaru Software Ltd. 5740 Darlington rd. Pittsburgh, PA 15217 (412) 421-5911 jty@tut.UUCP ! I know all about FORTH. Jyrki Yli-Nokari ! I saw a TV-program about it once Tampere University of Technology ! (I also love Carl Barks) Computer Systems Laboratory ! N 61 26' E 23 50' ! +358 31 162590, home +358 31 531999 ! Disclaimer: I don't have any personal or financial contacts with the Lugaru software except as a pleased customer. [I spoke with Todd Doucet of Lugaru this week. He informs me version 3.06?? is in beta test. This version can be configured to run such that it passes characters through to various resident "pop-up" style programs. It should be able to run with any of these style machines or Generic MS-DOS machines. The new version also allows EEL programmers direct access to the INT function. ISI also recently acquired a site license for Epsilon. -wab] ------------------------------ Date: 18 Mar 1986 17:23-EST Sender: ABN.ISCAMS@USC-ISID.ARPA Subject: PROINDEX Index Program From: ABN.ISCAMS@USC-ISID.ARPA Cc: Ghenis.pasa@XEROX.COM I just snarfed PROINDEX.DOC from the PC-BLUE volume 175 at SIMTEL20. Haven't downloaded or run the program yet, but documentation indicates it might be a good one. Basically you create a list (separate ASCII file) of the words/phrases you wish indexed. The indexer then works thru the target file and creates the index (to disk file or printer). Also an interactive mode, plus various switches you can set for case-sensitive, etc. Not like the CP/M indexer I used quite often, where you must actually enter specific control characters within the document for those segments you wish indexed. This never touches the original file. Might be worth your while to snarf the .DOC (price is right .. Freeware, but even with registration only $35 to $45). If you can't reach SIMTEL20 via ANONYMOUS FTP, yell and I'll EMail the .DOC to you. Usual disclaimers .. no financial interest (don't even know the guys). David Kirschbaum Toad Hall ABN.ISCAMS@USC-ISID.ARPA ------------------------------ Date: 19 Mar 86 07:27 EST From: Mark Williams Subject: TOC/Index for WordStar RE: Table of Contents and Index generators for WordStar: In the not too distant past, the WordStar Professional package for CP/M machines included a MicroPro TOC/Indexer called StarIndex. It worked fairly well as I recall, and I would expect it to be included in MS-DOS releases, too. I don't remember all the details about its operation and capabilities, but it made a suitable point of departure. Mark L. Williams Naval Coastal Systems Center ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18-Mar-86 20:05:10 EDT From: David Farber Subject: Experiences with Cache Programs on the AT I have been trying various disk cachers on my AT. I am running a 9 mh unit with 3.5 mbytes. I have run Lightning and VCACHE (Golden Bow Systems San Diego). Lightning is claimed to work with the expanded memory boards (the Intel-Lotus etc) (which I don't have). It works well with normal PC 640 memory space but the cache is rather small. It does not work nor do they plan to have it work with the extended memory of the AT. VCACHE works with all three memory configurations and thus is the only one that works well for me. Both seem the same technology and VCACHE is cheaper and better (at least for ATs). Minor bug in VCACHE. It seems not to work with no ramdisk (at least for me). So I set up a 512k ramdisk and a 1.7meg cache. REAL WINNER I get 85 % cache hits on the average with what I run. Dave [Farber does it faster! -ed] ------------------------------ From: allyn@sdcsvax.ucsd.edu (Allyn Fratkin) Date: 18 March 1986 1902-PST (Tuesday) Subject: PC/IX Users Survey Does anyone out there still run PC/IX at all? I know it never really became popular, and I was just wondering how many PC/IX systems are really out there. thanks in advance. Allyn Fratkin allyn@sdcsvax.ucsd.edu UCSD EMU/Pascal Project or U.C. San Diego {ucbvax, decvax, ihnp4}!sdcsvax!allyn [Please send replies to Allyn not us. I am sure he will summarize. -ed] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1986 23:44 EST From: Mike Kramer Subject: EGA and Display Write To: jim moore > From: Jim Moore This is really frustrating. Both PC Mag and Software Digest's Ratings News- letter say that DW3 can do ON-SCREEN underlining and boldfacing. Now, IBM Tech Support says, yep, that's true, but.... The guy I spoke to is using a Mono Display and can do on-screen u-ing and says I should be able to do the same with an EGA w/64K on board. He just can't tell me how. > From extensive experience with DW3 and various monitors/display cards, here seems to be the lowdown: The default colors of Dw3 text is green on black. On a CGA with color monitor, bold text appears as bright green, and underlined text appears in the color brown. As far as I know, there is NO way to get true underline in DW3 on a color monitor. The same applies to DW3 when used with an EGA. EXCEPT for the following: When DW3 has been informed that the user is utilizing an EGA- (using the DW3USER command -- see the manual p. 23-10 and the "mode" parameter of the DW3PG command in the DW3.BAT file). then the alternate character set is loaded into the EGA which provides a wealth of technical and mathematical symbols (WYSIWYG). Unfortunately, in IBM's infinite wisdom, when you enable the alternate character set, you must sacrifice the ability to display highlighted text (the "bright color" attribute bit on the EGA and the "alternate character" attribute bit are one in the same). Therefore, DW3 bold text on an EGA is not displayed differently than the regular text. Underscored text is still brown. Bold text is not displayed differently on the EGA, but a printer that will support bold will still bold the text. It is beyond me why they couldn't at least highlight bold in a different color (e.g. yellow) when the alt char set is enabled! As an aside, DW3, an EGA and a Quietwriter or Pageprinter makes a great technical writing system! Michael Kramer (MMKBC@CUNYVM.BITNET) Brooklyn College Physics Dept. ------------------------------ Date: 19 Mar 86 11:46 EST From: JHodges @ DDN2.ARPA Subject: TEMPEST LAN Problem To: tcp-ip @ sri-nic.arpa, info-ibmpc @ usc-isib.arpa I have a problem that I'm hoping someone out there can help me with. I have a user who has a large number of TEMPESTed Zenith PCs (IBM-compatible types) who wishes to connect these PCs to a secure LAN (Fiber Optic based). He wishes also to implement the usual file-sharing capabilities and remote logins associated with LANs. The problem is that the user has been told that, if he opens the PCs to work on them, any and all maintenance agreements go out the window and (supposedly) Zenith is not willing to renegotiate a new maintenance agreement. Also opening the PCs violates the TEMPEST certification. Further complicating matters, the customer is not willing to use a third-party maintenance group. Now, having said all of that, does anybody out there know of any software which might allow the connection of the PCs to the LAN via the PC's RS232 port, and also implement/allow file sharing? Are there any other solutions which might be feasible (such as an Thanks in advance for your help! Jim Hodges ------------------------------ Date: 20 Mar 1986 16:43:57 CST Subject: TEMPEST LAN Problem From: DSDC-SDT2@GUNTER-ADAM.ARPA To: jhodges@DDN2.ARPA Being the TEMPEST Officer here I can appreciate your user's problem. If I were a vendor I would not want a user to open my Tempest box. In response to your question about alternatives, I talked to our LAN people here and they gave me some literature on a product called EasyLAN Office Network. This product claims: EasyLAN shares printers, disk drives, and infor; easy to justify - less than $100 per PC; Easy to install; easy to operate; performs in the background. PC's are connected by EasyLAN cables plugged directly into your PC's standard serial comm port. Can be used with digital PBX's as well as modems and dial-up lines. All comm operations are protected by optional passwords and disk access restrictions. Will operate on a PC with an individual copy of EasyLAN, 128K memory, a serial port, and DOS 2.0 or above. It seems to be in the cables only, no special black-box attachment. They don't say anything about fiber optics. Their address is: SERVER TECHNOLOGY, Inc. 1095 Duane, S107 Sunnyvale, CA 94086 1-800/835-1515, in Calif call 408/738-8377 This product is described in the latest MIS Weekly newspaper, which is at home. Our LAN folks are also going to get me more info on another product tomorrow, and will post it to the net as soon as I look at it. ********** STANDARD DISCLAIMER ********** Cheers.... Walt ------- ------------------------------ Date: 20 Mar 1986 22:24-EST Subject: TEMPEST LAN From: CERF@USC-ISI.ARPA To: JHodges@DDN2.ARPA Jim, shot in the dark: SYTEK makes a lot of RS-232 S-XX (product number which I forget) interfaces for its broad-band LAN. It is conceivable that they can help - but if the LAN is not SYTEK's, I dunno... Putting a Tempest CARD into a Tempest cage does NOT mean the result is TEMPEST. Why not have Zenith evaluate/inspect/test the card? Someone will have to run TEMPEST certification all over with the card installed, in any case, before you could reasonably expect approval to work in that new mode. Vint Cerf ------------------------------ Date: 20 Mar 86 12:43 EST From: JHodges @ DDN2.ARPA Subject: "Mobius" and "LanLink" Query I was wondering if anybody has had any experience in using/installing either "Mobius" or "LanLink". "Mobius" claims to enable a virtually invisible link between PCs and VAXes, and to allow the PCs to share the VAX's memory/programs/peripherals etc. "LanLink" claims to implement a LAN without any special Hardware and to achieve data rates of around 100kbps. Anybody know anything about either of these? Jim Hodges [Sounds dubious to me. -wab] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Mar 86 01:54:42 est From: romkey@BORAX.LCS.MIT.EDU (John Romkey) To: JHodges@DDN2.ARPA Cc: tcp-ip@sri-nic.arpa, info-ibmpc@usc-isib.arpa Subject: TEMPEST LAN problem FTP Software will be doing a SLIP (Serial Line IP) driver for its TCP/IP product, which includes the standard Darpa protocols and also the Berkeley Unix protocols. There is already a SLIP driver for 4.2 and Suns, from rick@seismo. SLIP is currently used for point-to-point links between Unix systems. Once the PC SLIP is done, you'll be able to also use it to connect a number of PC's to a VAX or Sun via serial lines and have the VAX or Sun gateway packets between the PC's and any other networks it was on. FTP Software's address is: FTP Software, Inc. PO Box 150 Kendall Square Branch Boston, MA 02142 phone (617) 868-4878. - john romkey late of MIT now of ftp software Biased? Of course I'm biased... [A 9600 baud serial line solution would be fine for remote logins, but as a remote disk server it will be too slow. Symphony takes up about 256K of disk space. Assuming no overhead for error checking or retransmission it would take about 4.5 minutes to load Symphony over a serial line. This would be an intolerable delay. -wab] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Mar 86 12:08:28 pst From: minshall%ucbopal@BERKELEY.EDU (Greg Minshall) To: tcp-ip@sri-nic.arpa Subject: IP/TCP The University of California at Berkeley issued an RFQ towards the end of last year. The RFQ asked for a combination of hardware and software which would allow: 1. PC-net programs to run on ethernet, using TCP-IP protocols. 2. FTP and TELNET. 3. Programmatic interface to the TCP-IP-link level (and UDP), for writing custom applications. 4. Assurances that the product bid would, in some unspecified time, become a commercial product. The RFQ was sent to a number of companies. The responses were evaluated, and the contract was given to Ungermann-Bass. The Ungermann-Bass product (which is NOT a commercial product at this time) puts TCP-IP on board, is NETBIOS compatible (so, the IBM PC networking software runs on top of it), comes with user FTP, and allows us to port our own 4.2 applications over (it is interesting, though not surprising given our location, that we have worked hard to try to get an interface that allows for the 4.2 networking calls to work as in the 4.2 manual. I'm not a bigot about how great they are; I just think they are a [somewhat malleable] standard). Of course, this is a new TCP implementation. That means that certain algorithms which impact the efficiency of the protocol are unlikely to be optimal this early in its life. On the other hand, the University's RFQ requested a 20KBytes/second FTP file transfer rate, and the product we are currently using out performs that (to put the requested number in perspective, unloaded Vax 750's seem capable of doing about 60 KBytes/ second, while an IBM 3081 using a DACU does barely 20 KBytes/second [though there is more to the 3081/DACU performance than just this miserable number]). The product we currently run does host name to host number translation via static tables. There has been considerable discussion within Ungermann-Bass and within the University about the "right" way to do the name lookups. Basically, the question here is whether to use an IEN116 name server or the new Domain Name Server. The final product delivered to the University will support one of these protocols. This final product should be delivered within the next few months. My hope, certainly, is that this will become a commercial product very soon. I believe this to be Ungermann-Bass's intention, too, but you'd have to talk with Ungermann-Bass marketing people about this. The University's interest in this becoming a commercial product has to do with our desire to have a good vendor support for the product. One-of-a-kinds don't have that kind of support; real live products may. My one comment on other TCP-IP packages I've noticed so far is that NETBIOS compatibility is a large, missing feature. I worry a bit that many of us say "foo" to IBM PC networking, but that many of our end users (say small, non-computer oriented departments) are going to see many of the PC networking features as being very useful. It is also true that allowing NETBIOS compatibility allows us to NOT develop the function that PC networking already provides (remote disk access, etc.). Of course, one problem in NETBIOS support is that it is hard to imagine two vendors mappings of PC Networking -> TCP/UDP/IP to be compatible. We would hope, vainly I'm sure, that there would be some meeting of the minds between the various developers on this. Greg Minshall minshall@berkeley.edu minshall@ucbcmsa.bitnet (415)642-0530 [I have been talking with a lot of network vendors recently these same issues seen to crop up again and again -wab] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Mar 86 16:09:53 est From: Mark D. Freeman Subject: More Corrections Regarding AK Technology The following is what was in the 5-35 digest: [AK Tech makes the IRMA replacement board and software for IRMA cards. -ed] Unfortunately, it is a bad edit on what I sent. CXI makes boards that are alternatives to IRMA boards, as well as making software that enables IRMA owners to have more features and higher performance without upgrading hard- ware. AK Technologies Corporation is a distributor/dealer of CXI products, not their manufacturer. Sorry that this has become so complicated. [I goofed I don't know much about these boards. -wab] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Mar 86 14:03:17 PST From: Matthew J Weinstein Subject: MS C 3.0 Compiler Bugs 1) Using strict type checking modes -W2 and -W3 can cause bad code to be generated. MS acknowledged the problem, but has no fix. They recommend using -W1 for real code generation, and -W2 or -W3 for 'lint'ing only. 2) The large model 'qsort' library has had a tendency to loop in some circumstances. MS has not acknowledged this as a problem. I believe it to be caused by bad code generation during optimization (see below). 3) -O (optimize) may generate code that fails in limited circumstances (such as some address arithmetic above $8000). I have not gotten an answer from MS about this one. - Matt ------------------------------ From: microsof!gaben@uw-beaver.arpa Message-Id: <8603192300.AA14867@uw-beaver.arpa> Subject: Device Drivers and Windows & Running Symphony under Windows Date: Wed Mar 19 10:24:16 1986 Microsoft is currently working with a large number of device manufacturers to help them write device drivers for Windows. Microsoft will rarely if ever be writing device drivers itself in the future. As device drivers are returned to Microsoft by the device manufacturer, we will put them through our QA group, and when they pass they will be distributed to our OEM and Retail product support groups. We are currently considering putting together a device drivers disk, but we have no schedule or commitments for such a disk. Barring disk space or other considerations, we will try to include all the drivers we can QA in the next retail release of Windows, for which we also have no announced release date. Contact our retail product support group if you need to have a device driver that wasn't in our retail release, and if they have it, they will send you a copy. Also device drivers are posted on the Windows RoundTable on GEnie, the new General Electric Information Services network. If you are interested in writing a device driver, send a letter describing the device and your intentions to: Gabe L. Newell Windows Program Manager Microsoft 16011 NE 36th Way Box 97017 Redmond, WA 98073-9717 Retail Product Support can be reached at (206) 882-8089. There was a query on what patch would be needed to run Symphony under Windows. Symphony will run without modification under Windows. Since Symphony modifies memory and the keyboard interrupt, Windows reduces itself to a 4K stub, and allows Symphony to be run to completion. You can do screen grabs from Symphony, but you can not switch back into Windows from Symphony until you exit, when Windows will reinstall itself. If you have any other problems running Symphony under Windows, please contact our Product Support Group at the above number. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Mar 86 9:08:18 EST From: Steven Segletes Subject: When is a Clone a Clone Some recent talk on the net about Wang PCs raises questions in my mind about clone compatibility. Am I to believe that most (if not all) clone ROMs do not have INT 10H compatibility? Does anyone know which ROMs do or do not have such compatibility? Steven Segletes U.S. Army Ballistic Research Laboratory Aberdeen Proving Ground, MD 21005-5066 [A PC without INT 10H compatibility is not a clone. It might be a "MS-DOS" compatible machine, but not a PC clone. -wab] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Mar 86 19:07:46 est From: dewar@nyu-acf2.arpa To: GILLMANN@USC-ISIB.ARPA Subject: MASM OFFSET Bug But you certainly agree that if you have: a equ [bp+4] lea bx,a You will not get a 4 in bx, which is what I wanted! I didn't want the effective address of a, which in any case OFFSET could not even be expected to provide. Here is the issue with groups: ; suppose G is a group composed of S1,S2,S3 assume ds:G ; assume variable v is in S2 mov ax,offset V ; gives offset relative to start of S2 mov ax,offset (G:V) ; gives offset relative to start of G mov ax,offset (S1:V) ; gives offset relative to S1 (may fail in LINK) lea ax,V ;gives offset relative to start of G (because of ASSUME) Usually what you want is the offset relative to the start of the group G, hence your comment that LEA generally works. On the other hand, you might think that mov ax,offset V was not working if you got something else, but this would be unfair to Microsoft since they indeed should give something else (namely the offset from G) when you do this. I am quite prepared to believe that mov ax,offset (G:V) would not fix the problem as it should. Incidentally this sort of thing is documented clearly in the Intel ASM manual, but not at all in the Microsoft manual. I am always amazed that people manage to get ASM programs working given the combination: Horrible complicated Intel Semantics + Incompetent implementation and interpretation of said semantics by Microsoft + Misunderstandings and confusion on the part of the programmer !! Doing an exactly Intel compatible assembler is really hard (I know, I did one for the Vax). However, Microsoft is inexcusably far from the target. Their handling of EQU's for example as text substitution macros causes all kinds of subtle incompatibilities (there are many cases where putting parentheses round the EQU expression changes the assembled code -- Gee just like C!) ------------------------------ Date: 18 Mar 1986 10:33:08 PST Subject: MASM OFFSET Bug From: Richard Gillmann To: dewar@NYU-ACF2.ARPA Thanks for your informative message. My problems with OFFSET usually occurred when I had separate assemblies, as in your S1,S2,S3 example but not formal GROUPs -- just segments with the same name. I have one example where cmp ax,offset foo failed, but mov bx,offset foo cmp ax,bx worked ok! In all cases the problem was that I got the offset relative to the separate assembly, unaffected by the linker. You're right that lea ax,[bp+4] is different from mov ax,offset [bp+4]. Do you have the document number for the Intel assembler manual? I'd like to get a copy. Dick Gillmann ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Mar 86 16:15:50 est From: dewar@nyu-acf2.arpa To: GILLMANN@USC-ISIB.ARPA, dewar@NYU-ACF2.ARPA Subject: MASM OFFSET Bug I will try to get that document number for you. Incidentally the bug you mention with cmp ax,offset foo had to do with an earlier bug in MASM. The difficulty was that MASM was testing to see if an offset was short enough to use the 1 byte offset. They forgot to include in this test the test for whether the offset was relocatable. For the MOV OFFSET, there is no one byte offset form, so it worked OK. This particular bug has been fixed, so now your CMP OFFSET example should work fine. I was bitten by this many times with MASM V1.0 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Mar 86 10:07:46 pst From: gould9!ronb@nosc.ARPA (Ron Belanger @ CACI) Organization: CACI, Inc. -- La Jolla Xuucp-Path: {ihnp4,cbosgd,pyramid,sdcsvax}!gould9!ronb Xarpa-Path: gould9!ronb@nosc To: Joe.Newcomer@a.sei.cmu.edu Joe, There is a discrete simulation language available for the PC. SIMSCRIPT II.5, the same simulation language which runs on your favorite mainframe is available for PC, XT and AT machines. It is self-contained and can be used as a general purpose language, so it's not necessary to dip into other languages. The current version supports limited graphics (histograms built with characters). The release which is due out shortly supports graphics and animation as well. CACI, our company, sells SIMSCRIPT II.5. Call 619-457-9681 if you have any questions and ask for Rick Crawford. Ron ------------------------------ Date: 20 Mar 1986 14:19:57 PST Subject: Program List From: Richard Gillmann To: info-IBMPC@USC-ISIB.ARPA, swg.koji@USC-ISIB.ARPA I've made an abbreviated version of the Program-library.list. The new list is called PROGRAM.LST and it is in a one line per program format. It is accessible with FTP from the Arpanet. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20-Mar-86 21:07:53 EDT From: David Farber Subject: Fast Cards I ran two "benchmarks" on three machines. 1. A IBM XT with the Classic 286 card 2. An IBM PC with the Victor 286 card 3. A Zenith 148 at 4.77 mh 4. A zenith 148 at 8 mh 5. An IBM AT at 18 mh crystal Two tests were run. They were: 1. Drystone 2. A Speed test supplied by Classic that did a lot of memory references and log calculations ( no 287 87 etc) Answers Test 1 2 machine 1 1282 14.33 sec 2 1041 15.22 3 373 4 632 16.72 5 1388 10.89 If anyone can make sense out of that!! The Classic lists for 1100 and sells to univ for 800 The Victor lists for 595. The 18 hm crystal is 1.95 ------------------------------ Date: 21 Mar 86 02:56 GMT From: ghicks @ KOREA-EMH Subject: VDISK Source Listing Documents FAT In reply to the query from Daniel Briggs query re: format equivalent within a program, the supplemental program diskette from IBM that comes from DOS 3.1 has a listing of VDISK.SYS on it. It shows how to set up a FAT, BOOT RRECORRD and DIRECTORY. Might be able to help... Gregory Hicks GHICKS@KOREA-EMH ------------------------------ From: mcvax!ukc!jmh@seismo.CSS.GOV Date: Fri, 21 Mar 86 11:24:02 GMT To: milne Subject: Interrupt handlers in Turbo (V5 #20) > I'm afraid I don't see from your paragraph #1 how it's possible to install a Turbo routine directly as an interrupt servicer. > Apologies if I didn't make myself clear. If you need to swap stacks for the reasons below, then you do of course have to try a different tack. Iff it is OK to use the existing stack (i.e if the interrupt is only called by user code with plenty of stack space) then you can use (again, this is for Turbo 3.0 - I have no way of knowing if it works on earlier versions) procedure foo ; .... begin { push ax, bx, cx, dx, si, di, ds, es } inline ( $50/$53/$51/$52/$56/$57/$1E/$06 ) ; ... { pop es, ds, di, si, dx, cx, bx, ax } { mov sp,bp ; pop bp ; iret } inline ( $07/$1F/$5F/$5E/$5A/$59/$5B/$58/$8B/$E5/$5D/$CF ) end ; and install addr(foo) into the vector. See p214 of the Turbo 3.0 manual. Addr(foo) points to the start of the procedure prelude, which saves BP on the stack and then places a copy of SP into BP, marking the start of the procedure stack frame. MOV SP,BP at the end restores SP to this point, POP BP recovers the saved value of BP, and IRET returns from the interrupt - i.e this is the normal Turbo postlude with RET replaced by IRET. >> 2. It is only necessary to inform the 8259 of interrupts you wish >> to receive *which are generated by external hardware*. > > I don't suppose you would know what the appropriate mask values for it are, > or, more generally, where one would find a reference on programming it? For the serial ports COM1 and COM2, which operate through IRQ 4 and IRQ 3 respectively, to enable their interrupts in the 8259 you need to clear the corresponding bit at Port[$21] e.g. Port[$21] := Port[$21] and $F7 ; { Enable IRQ 3 } Port[$21] := Port[$21] or 8 ; { Disable IRQ 3 } For further information, the book I used (the only one I had available) was "Microcomputer Systems : The 8086/8088 family. Architecture, Programming, Design", Liu & Gibson, Prentice-Hall 1984. It's rather turgid, and not IBM PC specific. I've just found in the library "Interfacing to the IBM PC", Lewis C Eggebrecht, Howard W Sams & Co 1983, which on a cursory inspection seems to be somewhat easier to read and is PC specific. > .... In other words, any interrupt servicer > which does not create for itself a nice roomy stack elsewhere in memory > may be inviting disaster if its interrupt is raised during a call > to a DOS service routine. I had no idea of this. Would anybody care > to take a crack at amending the servicer's initialization code to use > such a stack? As it happens, I revised the way I was handling interrupts considerably in the light of your article, and included just this. With comments there's some 225 lines in the relevant file, so I won't post it to info-ibmpc (unless requested) but mail it to you. Good luck, Jim Hague jmh@ukc.UUCP ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Mar 86 15:06:16 cet To: BRACKENRIDGE@USC-ISIB.ARPA From: UZR500%DBNRHRZ1.BITNET@WISCVM.WISC.EDU Subject: FTP Between PC and VM/CMS The computer center of the University of Bonn (called RHRZ Bonn ) has an IBM/370 with VM/CMS as OS. Our IBM-PCs must also work as terminals. for FTPing from diskette to the CMS host. But our PCs have no IRMA cards and they have no AST-PCOX cards. And they have no other cards like this. The PCs are connected with a protocol converter by using a coaxial cable The protocol converter is the only alternative to be connected with the CMS host if we don't want to buy expensive cards like IRMA or AST-PCOX or others. The coaxial cable from the PC to the protocol converter uses the V.24 (RS232) of the PC. So I began to develop such a FTP program to solve this. Now we have several programs working with the V.24 . These programs are written in TURBO-PASCAL (V.3.01A) or in IBM-BASICA. But we have our problems in developing this FTP program: 1) Our BASICA program runs under the interpreter,but it is very slow. So I tried to compile it with the IBM BASIC COMPILER V.1.0 . First I got some error because of wrong handling (I forget the compiler options needed for communication). But now I get an error when compiling the program. Before I got the error when running the program. Now I had a look to my program. Then I only compiled the following line and got exactly the same error : 60 OPEN "com1:9600,e,7,1,pe" as #1 : '...any comment Three weeks ago I got the IBM BASIC COMPILER V.2.0 and then the same story. At the same time I got the QUICKBASIC COMPILER from MICROSOFT.There I got my problems when linking the necessary library for communica- tion. This is the BCOM10.LIB library. Can one help me in compiling this program. If you really know how to work with these @#&%*$ +! compilers please tell me that and you can get the whole program from me in order to try to compile it. But a little warning : I'm not logged on all the days and nights. So I answer you some days later. 2) When writing our program in TURBO-PASCAL we found out that installing the BASICA line open"com1:9600,e,7,1,pe'"as#1 (port = COM1,9600 baud, 7 data bits 1 stop bits,parity even) in TURBO is not very easy.I know that one can do this by using MODE. But our program is written for people who are not experts in using computers. So we want that it is installed automatically by our program. I know that one has to use the declaration cpureg = RECORD ax,bx,cx,dx,bp,si,ds,es,flags : INTEGER END; and that one has to set cpureg.dx := $0000; for COM1 and cpureg.ax := $00A6; for 2400 baud,no parity,2 stop bits,7 data bits := $00E6; for 9600 baud,no parity,2 stop bits,7 data bits := $00FE; for 9600 baud, parity,2 stop bits,7 data bits But there are still unsolved problems when doing this. Did anyone al- ready write such a program and could this person help me ? Perhaps today my letter is more detailed and one can understand me bet- ter. Please send all information to : Thorsten Glattki +49 228 73-2747 RHRZ Uni Bonn Zimmer 003 Wegelerstrasse 4 D-5300 Bonn 1 Federal Republic of Germany (West-Germany) Thanks a lot in advance. Thorsten ------------------------------ Date: 21 Mar 1986 10:45:32 PST Subject: FTP Between PC and VM/CMS From: Billy To: UZR500%DBNRHRZ1.BITNET@WISCVM.WISC.EDU Well that is quite a specific message. Sorry to inform you but communications support is very weak from BASIC and even Turbo Pascal. DOS provides very little support for serial communications. It is necessary to write your own machine language level serial I/O support as the DOS routines provide no buffering. Unless your low level routines buffer the incoming characters you will lose incoming characters when the PC is busy writing to the disk. Even the standard DOS bell routine ties up the processor so long that characters will be lost at 9600 baud if your PC is beeping at you! Fortunately this code was done in 1982 at MIT and they have placed in the public domain. I will send a copy of this code in a following message. Unfortunately this requires the Microsoft Assembler, but as the code has been debugged you shouldn't have any problem getting it running. Also you will have to read the section in the BASIC compiler manual on how to link to assembly language routines and modify the code so it can be called by BASIC. The more difficult question is what to send in order to communicate with your protocol converter. I have never seen such a device so I can't help you here, but I believe the people at Columbia University have versions of Kermit that can deal with protocol converters. I will forward your message on to them and would be happy to act as a mail forwarding agent if you can't get the kermit files directly via BITNET. I will also run your plea in the digest as somebody else might be able to answer your BASIC and Turbo Pascal questions. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Mar 86 21:40:27 PST From: larry@Jpl-VLSI.ARPA Subject: WordPerfect & Epson Proprinter Emulation We have an AT with WordPerfect 4.1 on it and want to use the nifty line-drawing feature. However, some weird things happen when we set the Epson 286 to Proprinter mode. (1) Subscripts and superscripts won't work. (2) When WP is exited, the Epson is set into near-letter-quality mode. Any idea how to fix this? Or even why this happens? Two of us have independently studied the Epson manual and the WordPerfect Printer customizing utility, and haven't figured it out yet? Larry @ jpl-vlsi.arpa ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Mar 86 17:03:14 est From: Scott Guthery Subject: BSR Board BSR is a remote control standard that uses AC lines and $15 modules from Radio Shack for controlling things like lights, radios, clocks, blenders, or any other AC plug-in device. Does anyone know of a BSR controller board for the PC? I'd like JUST BSR and not a lot of A/D and D/A extras. Thanks, Scott ------------------------------ Subject: DAVONG multi-function bd. Date: 20 Mar 86 09:17:15 PST (Thu) From: arms@sri-spam I have an expansion bd from the now defunct DAVONG Corp. I inherited it with a used COLUMBIA (PC compatible). It works fine for the 256K memory expansion (for which part I have documentation). It also has a parallel and a serial port (for which part I have *NO* documentation) and it is interfering with my built-in Com1 serial port on which I have a modem. Query: Does anyone have a similar DAVONG bd for which one might possess the description of the two DIP switch packs settings relevant to the two comm ports? I still need to use the memory on this bd as the COLUMBIA's resident is only 128K and a newly acquired AST SIXPACK PLUS (used of course) contains 384K. 512K is nice but I want *more*. Thanks very much for any oncoming assistance. Tom Arms ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Mar 86 23:21:29 EST From: Robbit%UMass.BITNET@WISCVM.WISC.EDU (Rob Kaplowitz) Subject: Anchor Automation Volksmodem 1200 Presently, I have a Anchor Automation Volksmodem 1200 connected to my PC compatible, however I've been unable to get it to work properly using Crosstalk XVI V3.5 & V3.6. As a test, I hooked up a Hayes smartmodem to the same Comm port and it worked flawlessly. I have played around with the DIP switches on the Volksmodem but nothing seems to work. Any suggestions???? Rob ------------------------------ Date: 20 Mar 1986 11:50:59 PST Subject: Anchor Automation Volksmodem 1200 From: Richard Gillmann To: Robbit%UMass.BITNET@WISCVM.WISC.EDU (Rob Kaplowitz) I bought one of those Volksmodem 1200s myself. First off, it's NOT Hayes compatible, though it does have a subset of the Hayes commands. I've been able to use it with VDTE by modifying my Hayes command files to fit the subset. I suspect that Crosstalk is assuming a Hayes modem and having trouble as a result. The Volksmodem works OK, it's cheap, but be prepared to do your own modem commands. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Mar 86 18:27:39 EST From: James H. Coombs Subject: Automated PC-->Mainframe Sessions Greetings! We have people interested in conducting unattended sessions between an IBM PC and a 3081. Ideally, they would be able to connect, download mail, terminate the session, process the mail, and then reconnect and upload the results. Even when an operator is present, they would like to have the process as automated as possible. Has anyone experimented with something like this. The natural place to start, I would expect, is PROCOMM or PIBTERM, which have SCRIPT facilities and KERMIT file transfer (at least PROCOMM does). We are reluctant to get them started on one of these programs unless we have indications that the results will be satisfactory and reliable. Any advice would be appreciated. Many thanks. --Jim P.S. We are running 7171s, so asynchronous file transfer is "no" problem. ------------------------------ From: hermix!stan@rand-unix.ARPA To: randvax!info-ibmpc%ISIB@ECLB Subject: Info on MS Mouse Driver for Xenix Date: Thu Mar 20 14:37:00 1986 I have just purchased a Microsoft Mouse version 5.0. Unfortunately, the programming information included with the mouse is confined to MS-DOS. Has anyone either the technical information on how the mouse communicates via the serial port, or even better, has someone developed a program/driver written in C to interface Xenix to the mouse? As usual, Thanks in advance. Stan Stead UUCP: {ihnp4|decvax}!hermix!stan ARPA: hermix!stan@randvax BELL: (213) 206-6238 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Mar 86 00:06:44 EST From: Dean Carpenter Subject: Changing Cluster Size In the latest issue of PC-WORLD there is a method of diddling the BPB when formatting the XT's 10 meg hard disk to give a cluster size of just 2K. Has anyone tried this yet ? What sort of difference does it make ? Could the same method be used to make a 1K cluster size without totally wiping out performance ? Thanks. Dean Carpenter ST701979@BROWNVM.bitnet PS. the article is on page 341 of the April 1986 issue ------------------------------ Date: Fri 21 Mar 86 05:56:39-PST From: Tony Brand Subject: Microsoft Mouse and Print Spoolers * This is the 3rd time I've tried to upload this file from my * * PC. Qmodem 2.0 has a nasty timing bug in it. Now the bug has * * fixed with Qmodem 2.0C. * I've just set up my Zenith 200 with 2 30Mbyte drives, AST Advantage, Quadram EGA+ (actually a full length Video 7 board relabelled, because Quadram says they've been delayed in shipping the half height board pictured in ads because it uses surface mounted IC technology). I've ordered but not received a Cannon Laser printer which I'm going to use with a Tall Tree J-Ram board and laser interface. I've also got a Microsoft mouse. So that's where I'm at. 1. Does anyone know of a source for Microsoft Mouse definition files for using the mouse with the programs below? SuperKey, SuperCalc3, WordPerfect, SideKick 2. How does the Microsoft mouse identify when an application, which it has the menus for, is loaded? Is there a tech manual for the mouse? 3. I bought an optical mouse for a friend and its driver allowed the mouse to emulate the cursor pad under all programs. Can I make the Microsoft mouse do that? I've used SuperSpl, the resident print spooler supplied with AST 6-paks on all IBM PCs. I just got the print spooler from Quadram and that's much slicker because it has a window which one can call up with one key combo (mine is Alt Left shift) and then one can flush the buffer or pause it. It does seem to be slower than SuperSpl when spooling however. It works with Sidekick and Superkey present. Anyway I think the Quadboard is as good as the AST 6-paks I've been buying previously. Ok, that's enough for now, usual disclaimers on all the above. I'm not on the info-pc lists so please send replies, if any, to brand@sumex-aim.arpa Tony Brand, Trenton State College Voice : (609)-771-3013 ------------------------------ End of Info-IBMPC Digest ************************ -------