Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ucbvax!csnet-relay.arpa!jl%dac.triumf.cdn%ubc.CSNET From: jl%dac.triumf.cdn%ubc.CSNET@CSNET-RELAY.ARPA (John Lloyd) Newsgroups: mod.computers.vax Subject: Re: creating volume sets Message-ID: <52:jl@dac.triumf.cdn> Date: Mon, 10-Mar-86 16:54:23 EST Article-I.D.: dac.52:jl Posted: Mon Mar 10 16:54:23 1986 Date-Received: Wed, 12-Mar-86 06:33:26 EST References: <860304162431.700172@HI-MULTICS.ARPA> Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 20 Approved: info-vax@sri-kl.arpa Ahh you were caught by the Backup non-Image performance crunch. Backing up disks /IMAGE is considerably faster than /NOIMAGE, because Backup goes by the Index file rather than the directory structure. Your restore took so long because you chose the wrong method: 1) Back /image /noinit tape: disk1:,disk2:,disk3:,... would have been faster than your 2) Back /noimage tape:[*...] disk1:[*...],disk2:,disk3:,... which requires many references and re-references to the index file and various and sundry directories each file creation. Note that method (1) requires disk1:... to be mounted /Foreign, thus Backup keeps the directories and allocations problem to itself; while (2) requires the XQP to do the work, and of course XQP is not optimized for file restores from Backup. Live and learn. I haven't decided myself if a disk copy (RM05 to RA81) is faster to use /Image backups to tape and back to disk, or if I should just wait for the Backup RM05:[*...] RA81:[*...] to wind its way through the mud.