Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!decvax!decwrl!ucbvax!ucdavis!lll-lcc!lll-crg!topaz!harvard!think!mit-eddie!gds From: gds@mit-eddie.MIT.EDU (Greg Skinner) Newsgroups: mod.music Subject: Love-Hounds Digest Message-ID: <1234@mit-eddie.MIT.EDU> Date: Sun, 9-Mar-86 20:26:00 EST Article-I.D.: mit-eddi.1234 Posted: Sun Mar 9 20:26:00 1986 Date-Received: Tue, 11-Mar-86 08:42:11 EST Organization: MIT Lusers and Hosers Inc., Cambridge, Ma. Lines: 354 Approved: gds@eddie.mit.edu Love-Hounds Digest Sunday, March 9, 1986, 20:24 Today's Topics: fanzine drivel (drrroooooool) Cocteau Twins "Leave it Open" sick zine drivel, part 2 We let the weirdness in Re: My encounter with "The Most Feared Man In Rock"! backwards messages Broken Kneecaps Boiled in Lead on tour Princess Tinymeat [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Thu, 6 Mar 86 11:50:16 EST From: Hofmann@AMSAA.ARPA Subject: fanzine drivel (drrroooooool) Well, how about that! That "handsome cabin boy" is a rewrite of Jack O' Roe (listed in the album by the Dead as Trad.) ... the whole theme of the woman posing as a boy seems to be a retread from the fabled Cloudbusting appearance by the K. But has she been listening to the dead now too? On to something else and that something else is this problem, albeit overblown, with the independent record promoters. Just so there is no confusion, independent record promoters have little to do with independent record companies or artists. They are basically "hires" in various regional areas by the major labels and I'm sure by the indies to run from station to station and promote songs usually on AOR. This problem some grand jury in New York is investigating has to do with some of them offering untouched kneecaps in return for airplay and has strong organized crime overtones ... well, I wonder if EMI hired anyone to promote Kate's music.... Second - too bad Sue, I heard a phone interview with Brix on WCVT and she sounded really nice... her Californiaisms don't even show through and at times she sounded English. The interviewer had some really good questions for her, so you might want to try and get a hold of the tape now that you are good buddies with him. Jim [][][][][][][][][][] Subject: Cocteau Twins Date: Thu, 06 Mar 86 13:28:36 -0800 From: alfke@csvax.caltech.edu Has anyone on this list raved lately about the Cocteau Twins? Being a new subscriber, I wouldn't want to repeat things others have already said ... If I don't hear "we've DONE that already" from anyone, I'll see fit to go ahead and describe their wonderfulness. Not to worry; I won't get embar- rassingly effusive ("Liz Fraser is the VERY VOICE OF GOD"*), and, their music being what it is, I can't give any strainedly intellectual analyses of their lyrics. Just reasonably restrained rapt adulation. --Peter Alfke alfke@csvax.caltech.edu -------- *Liz Fraser can be the Very Voice of God on Mondays, Wednesdays, Fridays, and Sundays, while Kate Bush can be the V.V.o'G. on Tuesdays, Thursdays and Saturdays. Yes, Kate only gets three days, but she sings louder. "Just trying to be fair!" [][][][][][][][][][] Subject: "Leave it Open" Date: Thu, 06 Mar 86 13:31:23 -0800 From: alfke@csvax.caltech.edu I've just borrowed a friend's copy of "The Dreaming" (I'm waiting for the disc release before I buy my own), and I'm wondering about the very end of "Leave it Open". I always assumed that the backwards^2 voice said "We let loneliness in", but our noble moderator claims it's "We let the weirdness in". I still think the first version sounds better, but now I'm unsure which is right. Does anyone have the unvarnished gospel truth about what's really being sung? If not, maybe we could vote or something. I know, it's a trivial point, but these little things bother me at times. (I even --gasp-- keep my record collection in alphabetical order, for which I often get teased by my girlfriend.) --Peter Alfke alfke@csvax.caltech.edu "eeeeesplagh snyet klep Satan llllllops" --from "Stairway to Heaven" (played backwards) [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Thu, 6 Mar 86 17:01:37 EST From: Hofmann@AMSAA.ARPA Subject: sick zine drivel, part 2 SO you all think Doug is bad about Kate? Check out what this guy named Billy Boy thinks about his godhead ... she "projects a great outlook on life. What person do you know who goes through life with a smile on her face?" He also feels that the diversity of ... [her and her familiars] ... "shows the diversity of taste, the things that exist in life....It's freedom." He also find cleanness, goodness and humanity symbolized in the slim, long-legged person of his ... "goddess." Who is this person that Billy Boy is talking about? How many albums does she have? Who is her boyfriend? does she eat Kit-Kats???? Well, Billy Boy's "goddess" stands only 11 1/2 inches high, has no albums and a boyfriend named "ken" ... you guessed it! Barbie-doll! This guy sounds sicker than Wicinski in his Mary Lou Retton blow-up doll obsession ... he's got 10,000 Barbies in his collection and countless little dresses and play accesories. The picture of him shows a psyche-type with a mod-style haircut, a paisley print nehru jacket and sunglasses ... he's holding a Barbie dressed in a black dress and wearing black sunglasses.... Kinky, man! >From the Baltimore Sun, reprinted without permission ... (did you actually expect me to ask them, I mean, jeez...) ---- "I see girls working, it just makes me giggle I don't have to work, I just have to wiggle Cause I'm a BLOND B-L-A-N-D Cause I'm a BLOND Don't you wish you were me?" Jim "nuke" Hofmann [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Thu, 6 Mar 86 19:56:14 EST From: nessus (Doug Alan) Subject: We let the weirdness in > From: alfke@csvax.caltech.edu > I've just borrowed a friend's copy of "The Dreaming" (I'm waiting for the > disc release before I buy my own), You may be waiting for an awfully long time, then. "The Dreaming" was not a huge sucess commercially in England. "Never for Ever" is not yet on CD and it was much more successful (it was Kate's other #1 album). Just to give you an idea of the relative success of "The Dreaming", it went gold in England (100,000 copies) after three years. "Hounds of Love" went platinum (300,000 copies) in two months. > and I'm wondering about the very end of "Leave it Open". I always > assumed that the backwards^2 voice said "We let loneliness in", but > our noble moderator claims it's "We let the weirdness in". I still > think the first version sounds better, but now I'm unsure which is > right. Does anyone have the unvarnished gospel truth about what's > really being sung? Kate says that it's "We Let The Weirdness In". In fact she ran a contest in her newsletter to see who could get it right first. I know someone who called her up once a week, every week, for months, with guesses. He never got it right. Personally I think he's bonkers. But Kate says all her fans are wonderful people, so who am I to argue. > If not, maybe we could vote or something. I know some people who swear that's it "We let the madness in", even knowing what Kate says it is. But it sounds just like "We let the weirdness in" to me. In any case, who says Kate's right anyway? She is singing it bakwards, after all. Do you get to make the authoritative decision on what you are saying, when you are speaking backwards? > (I even --gasp-- keep my record collection in alphabetical order, for which > I often get teased by my girlfriend.) I only keep half my records in alphabetical order, to avoid getting teased.... "And they said they were very ill" Doug [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Thu, 6 Mar 86 11:30:20 EDT From: seismo!bdmrrr!potomac!jsl (John Labovitz) Subject: Re: My encounter with "The Most Feared Man In Rock"! X-Mailer: msg [version 3.2] Hi. I went to the Fall show also. I didn't think it was that hot -- probably just because the band was in a bad mood. Then again, most of the Fall that I've heard before was off ``Live at the Witch Trials,'' so maybe I was hoping for too much. Is the drummer the same as on most of the albums? He sounded a lot different live; don't know if it was just miking techniques, or an incomplete drum kit, or what. What did you think of the Volcano Suns? I enjoyed them more than the Fall, actually. Nice simple punk / rock. I love the drummer's voice (and screams)... John Labovitz ..!{rlgvax,seismo}!bdmrrr!potomac!jsl -- Don't act so embarrassed It's a family trait -- Robyn Hitchcock [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Thu, 6 Mar 86 18:50:16 pst From: Andrew Scott Beals Geographic-Location: Slumlandia @ Ground Zero, Livermore Ca State-Of-Mind: don't trust a friend, report him! Subject: backwards messages I just took an old Donnie and Marie album and played it backwards on my turntable. I heard someone telling me to be nice to my brother and sister. Does this mean anything? andy [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Thu, 6 Mar 86 22:46:38 EST From: nessus (Doug Alan) Subject: Broken Kneecaps Hey, Jim, some of us only have 80 column windows! > From: Hofmann@AMSAA.ARPA > Well, how about that! That "handsome cabin boy" is a rewrite of > Jack O' Roe (listed in the album by the Dead as Trad.) How close are the lyrics in "Jack O' Roe" and why is it called "Jack O' Roe"? > ... the whole theme of the woman posing as a boy seems to be a > retread from the fabled Cloudbusting appearance by the K. But has > she been listening to the dead now too? Actually, KB has been into this role reversal thing for quite some time. For example, there's a song of hers called "Ran Tan Waltz", where Kate sings from the point of view of a man who has a less-than-dedicated wife. When she performed it on her TV special, she was dressed up like a guy with a hat and beard and three-piece suit. Her two male dancer friends were there too. One was dressed up as the baby (in diapers, etc.), and the other one was dressed up as Kate's wife. Near the end of the song, Kate's beard and hat falls off and her hair comes down. Her wife takes off his wig and turns back into a guy again. All in all, it was pretty weird. > ... well, I wonder if EMI hired anyone to promote Kate's music.... Well, actually, the guy I met at the Roger Miller concert who was promoting Kate Bush is some sort of contractor. And back after "The Dreaming" was released in the U.S., and it got rave reviews, and sold more than the three copies that "The Kick Inside" must have here, EMI-America decided that they were going to promote Kate Bush for the first time. They released a compilation EP, and hired someone from a hip independent record company to run promotion. The independent promoter ran some contest where college radio stations were encouraged to put on a Kate Bush video show. The person running the best show would get to go to England and meet Kate. (It's illegal to offer such prizes for air play.) I never heard of the prize being given out, however. It sounds like the type of thing that the record company assumes is okay before getting approval from the artist. WLIR was giving out a date with Kate Bush as a prize when she with in New York in November. The winner was sorely disappointed, I'm sure, because Kate said "No way, Hose" to WLIR (though probably not in those words). I haven't heard of anyone's kneecaps being broken, however. "But some night she'll run back in fright When she picks on a Dick that's too big for her pride" Doug [][][][][][][][][][] From: seismo!cmcl2!floyd!stolaf!robertsl (Roberts, Laurence C.) Date: Wed, 5 Mar 86 12:25:34 cst Subject: Boiled in Lead on tour Hey folks- Got a card in the mail from Boiled in Lead. They'll be touring out on the east coast in the next couple weeks. The card mentions dates at Folk City in New York on March 12th, and The Sequel in Chicago on March 16th. Then us Minneapolitans can catch them at First Avenue on March 17th. For those of you who don't know already, Boiled in Lead plays electrified traditional Irish music. They make those old tunes really groove, and throw in other musical styles, from reggae to jazz to punk. They're also really talented multi-instrumentalists. They also mention that their second album, Hotheads, is still being negotiated. Can't wait.... Laurence Roberts ...ihnp4!stolaf!robertsl [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Thu, 6 Mar 86 13:55:27 pst From: ia-sun2!smeagol!earle@csvax.caltech.edu (Greg Earle) Subject: Princess Tinymeat Princess Tinymeat is a three person band from Ireland. Members are Tom Rice, Sissy Box, and Biinti. Front-person Biinti is a former member of the Virgin Prunes. Biinti is vocalist, the other two play the instruments, synths, and tapes. They have put out a 12" single (1985), which was notorious for having two nekked pics of Biinti on the sleeve, with circular white stickers covering the Naughty Bits. I am not at home, so I do not recall the tracks off the top of my head. Last month they released a 7" single, with tracks A Bun In The Oven / Wigs On The Green. Although I find the A-side a slight disappointment (*** Warning - Personal Opinion - Danger Will Robinson! ***) the B side makes a laughing stock of every other 1986 record I've heard. You have been warned ... ::::::\::::::::: ::::' \: `:::: ::' /:\ `:: Anarchy, Peace, and Freedom :: / ::\ :: Devastate to Liberate :: /_____\ :: ::./:' :: `\..:: ::/:. :: .\::: :::::::::::::\:: Greg Earle sdcrdcf!smeagol!earle (UUCP) JPL ia-sun2!smeagol!earle@csvax.caltech.edu (ARPA) [][][][][][][][][][] -- It's like a jungle sometimes, it makes me wonder how I keep from goin' under. Greg Skinner (gregbo) {decvax!genrad, allegra, gatech, ihnp4}!mit-eddie!gds gds@eddie.mit.edu