Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site mit-eddie.MIT.EDU Path: utzoo!decvax!bellcore!petrus!scherzo!allegra!mit-eddie!gds From: gds@mit-eddie.MIT.EDU (Greg Skinner) Newsgroups: mod.music Subject: Love-Hounds Digest Message-ID: <1262@mit-eddie.MIT.EDU> Date: Thu, 13-Mar-86 06:20:47 EST Article-I.D.: mit-eddi.1262 Posted: Thu Mar 13 06:20:47 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 15-Mar-86 01:03:09 EST Organization: MIT Lusers and Hosers Inc., Cambridge, Ma. Lines: 355 Approved: gds@eddie.mit.edu Love-Hounds Digest Thursday, March 13, 1986, 06:23 Today's Topics: What to do after "The Pink Opaque" Dear Repo Hacker obscenities (2 msgs) Who's in PIL these days? Attention all Mike Oldfield fans Gabriel. Genesis. Ranting & ravings in one nonstop paragraph. Gods-head Revisited [][][][][][][][][][] Subject: What to do after "The Pink Opaque" Date: Mon, 10 Mar 86 04:58:40 -0800 From: alfke@csvax.caltech.edu Several people I know or have heard from are familiar only with the Cocteau Twins' "The Pink Opaque", so it seems that more productive than ranting & raving would be for me to describe the albums, etc. that the various songs are taken from... "Wax and Wane" from the album "Garlands" The re-mixing indicated on the liner notes is just the substitution of a better drum machine. Kind of detracts from the song, in my opinion. "Garlands" is fantastic, one of the eeriest, most frightening records I've ever heard. "Wax and Wane" is typical, though one of the best songs. Screeching guitar, droning bass... Not as pretty as their later stuff, but it's one of my all-time favorite albums. "Musette and Drums" from the album "Head Over Heels" "Head Over Heels" is my favorite of their albums, but they could have chosen a better song from it. "Tinderbox of a Heart" and "My Love Paramour" are amazing, stunning ... as is the album as a whole. If you must buy only one more Cocteau Twins record, buy this one. "Hitherto" and "From the Flagstones" from the E.P. "Sunburst and Snowblind" The E.P. also contains "Sugar Hiccup", a beautiful song from "Head Over Heels", and "Because of Whirl-Jack". The latter is a good song (so are they all, all good songs), but not worth getting the whole thing for unless you're a completist. "Pearly-Dewdrops' Drops", "Pepper-Tree" and "The Spangle Maker" from the 12-inch single "Pearly-Dewdrops' Drops" Well, there you have the whole single, although the version of "Pearly-Dewdrops' Drops" on the single is just a bit different at the start for some reason. "Millimillenary" from an NME compilation tape Well, I've never seen the tape, so what can I say? (Has anybody seen it? What/who else is on it?) "Lorelei" from the album "Treasure" Two people have told me that this is their favorite song on "The Pink Opaque", and it's certainly, along with "Ivo", the best song on "Treasure". The rest of the album is good, but not nearly as good as the other two, and there's some definite filler on it. Get "Head Over Heels" first! "Aikea-Guinea" from the E.P. "Aikea-Guinea" I was disappointed by this song when it first came out, but I like it more and more (it sounds even nicer in digital :-). The other three songs on the E.P. are also good (even though one's an instrumental) but not spectacular. There are also two very good singles/E.P.s from which nothing was taken: "Lullabies": released quite soon after "Garlands"; probably just after they got a better drum-machine :-). Less scary than "Garlands" ("Feathers Oar-Blades" could almost be described as sounding New-Order-ish) but in somewhat the same vein. Great stuff. "Peppermint Pig" b/w "Laugh-lines" and "Hazel" Three great songs. "Hazel" has the fastest 3/4 beat of any song I've ever heard ... Chronologically, between "Lullabies" and "Head Over Heels". In addition, there are two new E.P.s, released almost simultaneously, that I'll get around to reviewing sometime. The lowdown? Get "Head Over Heels". If you like "Wax and Wane", get "Garlands". Hell, all their stuff is good, those are just the ones I like the best . . . Enough self-indulgence. Back to our regularly-scheduled programming. --Peter Alfke alfke@csvax.caltech.edu "Poor worthless lover, I'm all lackluster I'm no longer multicolored, I'm just multifoiled" [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Mon, 10 Mar 86 17:46:59 EST From: cmoore@brl-vmb.arpa Apparently-To: Please stop using obscenities [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Mon, 10 Mar 86 16:18:43 EST From: Hofmann@AMSAA.ARPA Subject: Dear Repo Hacker From: Repo Hacker > > Good Things: Butthole Surfers on video !!! real hot stuff. (and for the low low price of 25$ or so - I might add) Dear Repo Hacker: y'know I got these friends, really into the old 60's stuff. Something new to them is finding a Gregg Allman solo album they never heard before ... and that's OK - I'm not putting down their tastes at all - but I have been slowly working them into different music, y'know startin out slow with say Husker's latest LP or the Minutemen (careful not to show them the revolutionary words -:-)) and a coupla a weeks ago, I said, fuggit - let's go whole hog and give them da woiks - so I played "To Parter" and "Tornadoes" from the latest Butthole EP and tell ya the Plain Truth - They were blown AWAY, completely and magnificiently (so was I but that's like a usual happenin', y'see) ... then came the moment of truth (i.e. wherein my initiates start bugging me for the name of this wonderful but unknown group) ... I hemmed and hawed and mutter it under my breath trying desperately to change the subject before they pressed me too hard ... but they caught one of my mumblings and said, "the what? the buttholes???" ... The sordid truth out, I said without fear of retribution ... "yes, the (ahem) Butthole Surfers" ... at first they laughed and then when they straightened out they proclaimed (in all 60's-style seriousness), "But they'd be good if they didn't have such a bad name!" "How so?" I reply. "Well, they'd get a big record contract". SO, dear Repo Hacker, should I have kicked them out the front door or the back door? Signed, Madness and Mayham in Maryland [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Mon, 10 Mar 86 19:07:55 EST From: nessus (Doug Alan) Subject: Re: obscenities > What's the story here? How about a word from our moderator here ... > > /jordan Mr. Moore isn't on the mailing list, and I say "F*ck him". (Or rather, "F*ck him", as it will appear in mod.music. Now mod.music readers are going to be really confused because both of those quotes will look exactly alike.) In any case, I don't know what Mr. Moore is talking about, because Greg Skinner edits out obscenities for mod.music anyway. Besides, I don't care what Mr. Moore thinks about fine Anglo-Saxon words. This is someone that was interested in Husker Du because from their name he thought they might be an "oldies" group. Sh*t by any other name Would still smell as sweet Doug [And now, a word from our moderator. Please encourage your fellow love-hounds posters not to post profanity. If you *must*, please * out the vowels or something -- people have been complaining about the profanity. --gregbo] [][][][][][][][][][] Date: 10 Mar 86 (Mon) 11:19:13 EST From: Keiji Kanazawa Subject: Who's in PIL these days? Apparently-To: Love-Hounds I would appreciate if somebody can tell me, or point me to, the usual album specs for the PiL ``album''; who plays on what song and things like that. I don't read music rags and all I can tell is that Laswell co-produced it... Given that Lydon was on the Golden Palominos album, I figure there's a chance some of the tracks have Fier and Laswell on them, and I'm dying to find out.. [I don't know about Fier, but I know that Niki Scopalitus (or however you spell that), who played on the Golden Palominos album also played on "Album". -- Doug] [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Mon, 10 Mar 86 23:45:27 EST From: ihnp4!utzoo!dciem!jeff Subject: Attention all Mike Oldfield fans I'm a big fan of Mike Oldfield, but his records are sometimes difficult to find in North American record stores. If you want to increase your collection, but haven't seen much in the stores, I may be able to help. I have several Mike Oldfield records I would like to sell and replace with CD's: 7" singles: Blue Peter / Woodhenge Mistake / (Waldberg) The Peak Moonlight Shadow / Rite Of Man Crime Of Passion / Jungle Gardenia 12" single: Shadow On The Wall (extended version) / Taurus 3 LP's: Tubular Bells (quadrophonic remix) Hergest Ridge (vastly superior quadrophonic remix) Ommadawn (quadrophonic remix) QE2 Five Miles Out Discovery The quadrophonic records can be played on stereo equipment. All records are imported from Britain except "Five Miles Out", which is Canadian, and all are in new condition with the following exceptions: "Jungle Gardenia" has a bit of noise near the end, "Discovery" has a bit near the beginning of side 2, and I haven't listened to "Five Miles Out" but it may be a bit noisy because my wife played it on her inferior turntable. These records cost me almost $100, but I will sell the whole set for $50 in Canadian funds or the equivalent in US funds (about $36), plus postage, which should be about $5 to Canada or the US. If nobody wants to buy the whole set, I will sell them individually, but the more records you buy, the lower the price per record will be. If you're interested, send me mail at the address in my signature below. If that's not enough for you, I have recently been corresponding with the owner of the world's largest collection of Mike Oldfield records outside of England. He is looking for several American and Canadian records that he can't get in Europe (I have already sent him several Canadian records but he still wants more), plus some rare European and Japanese releases. He is willing to buy them or trade them for something that he has or can get. He has several records that are either no longer available in North America or never were, which he is willing to trade. He can also get you any Mike Oldfield album on CD (except "Incantations" and "Exposed", which are not yet available). Here's his name and address: Hendrik Obbes Ravensberger Str. 168 5600 Wuppertal 1 West Germany I'm also always willing to talk about Mike Oldfield's music. -- Jeff Richardson, DCIEM, Toronto (416) 635-2073 {linus,ihnp4,uw-beaver,floyd}!utcsri!dciem!jeff {allegra,ihnp4,linus,decvax}!utzoo!dciem!jeff [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Tue, 11 Mar 86 02:04:05 EST From: CUTTER%UMass.BITNET@WISCVM.WISC.EDU (Local UMass address is Cutter@Mailer.CY175) Subject: Gabriel. Genesis. Ranting & ravings in one nonstop paragraph. Does anyone know anything about a new Peter Gabriel album? He's had nothing since 1983's SECURITY, and I've had to console myself by buying "peter gabriel" (III) in German, "Security" in German, and a total of $80 of Gabriel bootlegs, some of which are worth note: "Swelled and Spent: The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway Live" - no bass, but the audience shut up during the songs and the spoken intros by Gabriel... "Milton Keynes 2nd October 1982" - this is a "Fan Club Only" (baha!) release of a Genesis/Gabriel reunion concert from 1982. Lotsa neat stuff, pretty good sound quality. Gabriel does drums on "Turn It On Again", and he's pretty good, too. Also, a nice version of "Solsbury Hill", and some WIERD intros. "Games... Without Words" - hey hey! someone broke into Gabriel's home in Bath and stole some tapes. Good quality, with some unreleased instrumentals. Features Tony Levin, Jerry Marotta, and Larry Fast (Synergy). Strange version of "I Go Swimming", extended version of "Games Without Frontiers" sans words (most of the songs have no vocal trax) and an interesting synth percussion track. And a very bad cover photo. Interesting to note: The reunion concert comes in an attractive red gatefold with nice color photos from the concert on the inside and out... It has a copyright notice, and is attributed to "Jessicharisma Records". Uh-huh. Sure. Just like the "Return to Abbey Road" bootleg that says it's an E.M.I. recording. Looks like one too, with a back cover photo of the Abbey Road studios, and a front-cover consisting of an alternate take for the Abbey Road cover - replete with Paul wearing sandals and all 4 dudes walking the *other* *direction* across Abbey Road! By the way, I advise you to pick up the AR Japanese CD. It's great!! Them short little Asian critters ran that sucker through some heavy duty computers to get it sounding nice, which it does. Also, I hear tell of a new Genesis album coming out soon. After "Genesis", I have almost given up on Phil and the boys. Better to listen to "Mike and the Mechanics", it's much more interesting than whatever Phil-baby can do. Maybe it'll have a small gem like "Illegal Alien", whose only redeeming value was that it was the only non-love song on "Genesis". "Home By the Sea" was just plain embarassing. Ah, for the days of "The Cinema Show", or "Supper's Ready"... Back to the Gabriel album for a sec, and then I'll go away; considering his rehashing of PGIII music for "Birdy", and the sound and feel of "Walk Through the Fire" (for the "Against All Odds" soundtrack, I think), plus his comment that "I like the sound of the second two albums better than the first two", I think whatever PGVI turns out to be, it'll probably be more pseudo-African-syntho-pop stuff, which is nice, but I'd like to see him do another "Mother of Violence", or "D.I.Y.", or even another "Modern Love"... "Can't you feel our souls ignite? Shedding ever-changing colours In the darkness of the fading night. Like the river joins the ocean, As the germ in a seed grows, We have finally been freed to get back home..." Joe "What Doug feels for Kate, I feel for Petey G... 'cept I don't want to sleep with Gabriel..." :-) [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Sat, 8 Mar 86 10:01:30 pst From: allegra!sdcrdcf!smeagol!earle (Greg Earle) Subject: Gods-head Revisited [ This got bounced by csvax's stupid internet domain server, which suddenly decided it didn't know about eddie.mit.edu's existence anymore. Therefore, we try the snail route ... ] New Siouxsie 12" is out. Luckily, in the fine tradition of Totally Awesome Siouxsie B-Sides, they didn't let us down ... Check out "Umbrella" and be totally amazed. These people are even older than me!! Sheeit, they're almost THIRTY years old, and still come up with the goods. Amazing. Oh, yeah - in case I lost anybody with my 'Reasons To No Longer Avoid Double Albums Like The Plague': Hula are the spiritual successors to the pre-commercial Cabaret Voltaire - from Sheffield; use found voices, sounds, etc.; funk based (loosely) but with a final brew that is not really 'funky', etc. [we're talkin' Before "Crackdown"/Virgin/Some Bizarre Cab Vol here, folks]. If you bid a sad farewell to Cab Vol after "Micro-Phonies", do not despair... All is not lost. Severed Heads are from Australia, and they sound like ..... Severed Heads. That should leave ya guessing ... "... Now An Explosive New Movie ..." Greg [][][][][][][][][][] -- It's like a jungle sometimes, it makes me wonder how I keep from goin' under. Greg Skinner (gregbo) {decvax!genrad, allegra, gatech, ihnp4}!mit-eddie!gds gds@eddie.mit.edu