Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site mit-eddie.MIT.EDU Path: utzoo!decvax!bellcore!petrus!scherzo!allegra!mit-eddie!gds From: gds@mit-eddie.MIT.EDU (Greg Skinner) Newsgroups: mod.music Subject: Love-Hounds Digest Message-ID: <1315@mit-eddie.MIT.EDU> Date: Tue, 18-Mar-86 04:09:34 EST Article-I.D.: mit-eddi.1315 Posted: Tue Mar 18 04:09:34 1986 Date-Received: Wed, 19-Mar-86 01:47:15 EST Organization: MIT Lusers and Hosers Inc., Cambridge, Ma. Lines: 290 Approved: gds@eddie.mit.edu Love-Hounds Digest Tuesday, March 18, 1986, 04:09 Today's Topics: Kate Bush on Stage Japan, David Sylvian, Etc. One Last Word (on this subject anyway) recent digest contents XTC Bill Nelson; more Cocteau fanzine drivel Bizarro wierd stuff... (2 msgs) [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Thu, 13 Mar 86 21:35 PST From: ROBB LEATHERWOOD Subject: Kate Bush on Stage Randomness: About the only thing on a farm that has an easy time is the dog. I saw, at my local record store, a 12" Mini-Album by Kate Bush. It's called "Kate Bush on Stage" and it's on Harvest records. The pictures and the 4 songs listed on the back are the same as the 7" single of the same name that I saw in Jim Lippard's boxed set of KB singles. Now, this would be fine and dandy, but there's a sticker on the front that says that the EP contains 6 songs. Either the sticker is lying or the list on the back is. Does anybody know the answer to this? And what is Kate doing on Harvest records? (Before you scream at me because all of her other records that I don't have are on Harvest, let me tell you that I only have HoL, The Dreaming, The Kick Inside on CD, and her 2 latest 12-inches. I just don't remember seeing that Harvest label on any of the other records I've seen by her.) Another Kate question: Now that I have what I have, what should I get next? Never For Ever? Lionheart? Or some singles or what? I'd appreciate a suggestion for my next Kate Bush record. (If there are truly 6 songs on that Mini-Album, I expect I'll get that next. I mean, it only costs $6.99) So long, -Shoo [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Thu, 13 Mar 86 21:56 PST From: ROBB LEATHERWOOD Subject: Japan, David Sylvian, Etc. Randomness: There's got to be more to life than compile-and-go. Can someone tell me a little something about Japan and off-shoot bands and artists? I have Japan's "Assemblage", "Oil on Canvas", and "Tin Drum". I also have Mick Karn's solo album and Dali's Car's album. Can someone give a discography of the band and it's representative artists, as well as some history of them and personal opinions? Thanks, -Shoo (or Fubb in ROT13, if you prefer...) [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1986 10:27 EST From: David M. Hardy Subject: One Last Word (on this subject anyway) I just went back and reread my original posting, and gosh, golly, and JHTC, I can't find ANYTHING in it where I told ANYONE to STOP DOING ANYTHING!!!! Perhaps those who think I did should go back and reread it themselves instead of reading things into it that aren't there. It was the person who said "Please stop using obscenities" that triggered this whole thing who said to stop. Now I'm going to put my walkman back on and continue listening to Stan Rogers' "White Squall," followed by Fred Small's "Heart of the Appaloosa" and the Legendary Pink Dots' "The Lovers" among other things which there just aren't words, profane or otherwise, to describe. Saved by the music.... "And I tell these kids 100 times don't take the lakes for granted. They go from calm to 100 knots So fast they seem enchanted." >>> Dave [][][][][][][][][][] Date: 14 Mar 86 16:56:00 PST From: "ROSSI J.A." Subject: recent digest contents Reply-To: "ROSSI J.A." Doug et al., If you look at the recent contents of this digest you can't help but notice that the obscenity issue has gotten the most air-play of any recent "hot" topic. There may be a reason for this which transcends peoples feelings for ex- pression of opinions on morality issues. I have been reading this digest for bo about 2 months now. I am constantly amazed at how little I know about what is happening in the current world of progressive music (I use the term progressive loosly, till I am sure that we are bnot allways talking about neo-bang-bang bands, whose collective musical ability could not be surpassed easily by recordings of mating calls of various rodents in heat). I have obviously been sheltered from much of the music described here. Worse, I have absolutely no idea where I can go to hear these new groups abnd decide whether or not I find them progressive. Ergo, I have little to say about any of these bands, although I enjoy reading comments about them. This gets me to my point, I believe that the obscenty issue may reflect a common focus upon which many persons can share opinions because we all have some knowledge of obscenities. As to stopping the discussions of this sort because it does not involve 'progressive music' is as rediculous (this terminal is typing funny) as the concept of dirty words (e.g., words which have dirt on them). I am always open to hear new truely progressive music (remember about 10 years ago Pink Floyd were pretty progressive) and my opinion of the music would not be altered by the name of a band. (The original name of my last performing band was Coitus, which we changed to afterglow to avoid, much to my dismay, public opinion -- We would have been better off as Coitus). Like many of us oldetr types who read the digest, I wish we had a better way of communicating the actual music as opposed to commentary abou the music. At this point, we would all know what everybody was talking about. Alas, (I read Jerry Pournell's BYTE art. too often) we may never reach this technological capability, and I think that we all will suffer because of this. You people who live in Boston and have FNX (and people who live elsewhere where there are stations that play 'oddo' music) are lucky. Those of us who use radios in SE Connecticut are pretty isolated. One final comment, Thje Berlin 'SEX' lyric is (to the best of my ability to discriminate using filters, speed translation and quantization techniques is "F*ck ME, F*ck ME". I wont get into thge reason I investigated ti (oops) it in the first place but would be glad to explain in detail if anyone really cares. John ------ [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Fri, 14 Mar 86 17:12 EDT From: Bob Page Subject: XTC Are recording as we speak. Todd Rundgren (sp?) is producing. No release date info. It'll be good to hear from them again. It isn't even winter/and I'm shivering/shivering... ..Bob PS Shit. heh heh. [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Fri, 14 Mar 86 22:56:53 EST From: hsut@ed.purdue.edu (Bill Hsu) Subject: Bill Nelson; more Cocteau fanzine drivel (I'm typing this while listening to All the Love, one of my all-time favorite Kate songs, so this may get somewhat incoherent...) (BTW, it was hilarious to read one of Doug's postings to lovehounds show up in mod.music, you know the one where he predicted confusion about a certain F-word...) Finally picked up a copy of Bill Nelson's The Love that Whirls (I also saw a stack of rarer Bill Nelson stuff at Rose in Chicago, but they're way out of my budget range). Neat to find out that a lot of the artists whom I admire also like each other's work --- Bill Nelson seems to be really into Cocteau (again!) and the Hungarian Gyorgy Ligeti, one of the most interesting avant garde composers in the early '60s. Ligeti wrote neat pieces for organ which are literally dense blocks of sounds and colors, and interesting choral and orchestral pieces. One of his pieces is heard in the movie 2001. If you're into Cocteau's Beauty and the Beast (was it Shelli?) be sure to pick up Bill Nelson's soundtrack. It was written for a stage production based on the movie, and Nelson acknowledges the influence of the original soundtrack. I've seen lots of stills from the movie, but have not had the chance to see the actual movie. Bill Hsu [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Sat, 15 Mar 86 01:02:28 EST From: CUTTER%UMass.BITNET@WISCVM.WISC.EDU (Local UMass address is Cutter@Mailer.CY175) Subject: Bizarro wierd stuff... 1 - Picked up "The Dreaming". Kate Bush is the most extremely wicked pissah awesome artist I've ever heard. 2 - I quoted part of this in my first message, and someone re-quoted them in the last issue. Here is the whole song, known as "Piece of Mind", which seems to be an outtake from the "Sgt Pepper" album, and it is an outtake for obvious reasons - too bleeping wierd. Almost pushes the limits of "psychedelic". The copy I have sux rox so maybe one or two words ain't right... "I'm looking at the candle burns the flame to meet the sky I hear the candle laughing, I turn my face to cry The safety pin returns my smile, I nod a brief hello While you are building molecules with your garden hoe. White canvas laughs forever, these things repressed inside One feels it almost instantly, unless the novice died It's over, it's done, paper needed again, Just please please please, oh don't keep me from begin I need to hear the colors red and blue, with whispered words To fly all day and sing in tune and not hear what I heard To see you all around me and to take you by the hand And lead you to a brand new world that lately has been found We'll build things never built before and do things never done And just before it's over, it's really just begun. Hush..." Pretty wierd, huh? Definately drug-induced, but even so it beats Wham!... Has anyone picked up the latest (new as of 1/27) Mike Oldfield single? I was over in Amherst, MA, during the broadcast of an extremely fine college radio show known as "Non Sequiter Theatre" which plays a lot of cool sh*t, from XTC to Frank Chickens to The Jazz Butcher to The Cramps, and the DJ played the single. Very reminiscent of things like "Tricks of the Light", like Oldfield is still in "Discovery" mode. Pretty good, don't remember what the b-side is. Speaking of XTC, saw the video for "Mole of the Ministry"... ever seen that promo film the Beatles did for "Strawberry Fields Forever"? Yeah, well, it looks like Partridge et al overdosed on watching it... Less silent-film-ish, but it suits the song well. Also caught the video for PiL's new one, "Rise". Lydon looks reminiscent of Dr. Lizardo, replete with red hair on end and bug eyes. Then again, Lydon USUALLY looks like that. He's also the only one from the band in the video. Hmmm... Enough drivel. Later. "I'll find a place somewhere in the corner I'm gonna waste the rest of my days Just playing solitaire by the window Just watching seasons change..." Joe [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Sat, 15 Mar 86 02:15:51 EST From: nessus (Doug Alan) Subject: Re: Bizarro wierd stuff... > From: CUTTER%UMass.BITNET@WISCVM.WISC.EDU > 1 - Picked up "The Dreaming". Kate Bush is the most extremely wicked > pissah awesome artist I've ever heard. Hey, it's great to see another convert to the One True Faith! Some days I think to myself, "Is all this ridiculous Kate Bush fanatacism really worth it?" But on days like today, when I know that I've created another fan, and I can think of those extra few bucks in KB's pocket, which she can use to build a better security system around her house to protect herself from bozos like me who send her rediculously long unanswerable letters and who want nothing more in the world than to sneak into her house and make off with all her demo tapes (including that one with 50 (!!!) piano songs on it that she sent to record comapnies when she was 14) and her twelve inch single for "Sat In Your Lap" -- it's on days like these that I know it's all worth it! "I want it all" Doug P.S. "Hounds of Love" has risen back up the UK Billboard charts and is back in the top 10 (at number 9)! (And to think that I was worried about what KB was going to do for money when "The Dreaming" flopped.) P.P.S. Where does one find that nifto bizarro "Sgt. Pepper's" out-take? [][][][][][][][][][] -- It's like a jungle sometimes, it makes me wonder how I keep from goin' under. Greg Skinner (gregbo) {decvax!genrad, allegra, gatech, ihnp4}!mit-eddie!gds gds@eddie.mit.edu