Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site mit-eddie.MIT.EDU Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ulysses!allegra!mit-eddie!gds From: gds@mit-eddie.MIT.EDU (Greg Skinner) Newsgroups: mod.music Subject: Love-Hounds digest Message-ID: <1364@mit-eddie.MIT.EDU> Date: Sat, 22-Mar-86 21:21:15 EST Article-I.D.: mit-eddi.1364 Posted: Sat Mar 22 21:21:15 1986 Date-Received: Mon, 24-Mar-86 03:36:00 EST Organization: MIT Lusers and Hosers Inc., Cambridge, Ma. Lines: 339 Approved: gds@eddie.mit.edu Love-Hounds Digest Saturday, March 22, 1986, 21:21 Today's Topics: Japan...the band, not the country re: Phonetics and Shriekback Bootleg City (2 msgs) Re: weird movies re: A few questions.. you can all envy me now... (2 msgs) Re: envy [][][][][][][][][][] Return-Path: Date: Mon, 17 Mar 86 15:58:52 EST From: Susanne E Trowbridge Subject: Japan...the band, not the country Since there has been no response to Shoo's question about the great and glorious Japan, here, for your edification, is the scoop... ALBUMS ------ Adolescent Sex Obscure Alternatives Quiet Life Gentlemen Take Polaroids Tin Drum Oil On Canvas Assemblage Exorcising Ghosts The first two are totally different from the rest of Japan's material... "punkier," rougher, glam-rock. Most Japan fans I know hate these two LPs. I can take 'em or leave 'em. Get the rest first, though. With "Quiet Life," they started moving into smooth Eurodisco; "Gentlemen Take Polaroids" and "Tin Drum" are their best, though. They actually got some Oriental musicians and started trying to live up to their name. Very interesting stuff, not party music or anything but definitely recommended. "Oil On Canvas" is a double live LP that's only for completists and Japan fetishists like myself. "Assemblage" and "Exorcising Ghosts" are compilations, with the latter being a double. Japan have also released loads of singles; my favorite is the 12" of "All Tomorrows Parties" (yes, a cover of the Velvet Underground song). David Sylvian has released a superb LP, "Brilliant Trees," as well as several singles, including two with Ryuichi Sakamoto, "Forbidden Colours" and "Bamboo Houses." A cassette LP, "Alchemy," was released late last year. (A 12" of excerpts, "Words from the Shaman," is also out). It's all instrumental, unfortunately... And if you're REALLY into Japan, how can you live without their video, "Instant Pictures"? It's a Japanese VHS cassette, definitely the best quality video I own. It features several videos for songs from "Tin Drum" and "Gentlemen Take Polaroids," including "Visions of China," one of the best videos EVER. Ok, so it costs $40 and it's not exactly easy to get hold of. Further questions? Email to me... Sue [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Tuesday, 18 Mar 1986 07:50:43-PST From: hall%beta.DEC@decwrl.DEC.COM (DAN HALL) Subject: re: Phonetics and Shriekback >>Really-From: nessus (Doug Alan) >>Speaking of Shriekback, the lyrics to "Oil and Gold" on the lyric >>sheet are written in some strange phonetic alphabet. Does anyone know >>where this particular phonetic alphabet came from or was it just >>invented for the lyric sheet? Don't know from whence it came. I found that I can't just read it and figure out what it says - I have to be listening and reading along. I took the time a few months back to listen and translate into English. If anyone who owns the record or tape (honor system here) would like the translated lyrics, I have them on-line - just send me mail. -Dan "We are no monsters we're moral people and if we have the strength to do this this is the splendor of our achievement" --Nemesis _OIL AND GOLD_ [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Tue, 18 Mar 86 11:32:36 EST From: CUTTER%UMass.BITNET@WISCVM.WISC.EDU (Local UMass address is Cutter@Mailer.CY175) Subject: Bootleg City Whilst perusing my local (sorta) record store, I noticed an interesting record in the Kate section - it was a 5 or 6 song album from the Kate Bush Fan Club of Taiwan. Badly printed cover (i.e. cardboard with a slip of paper held on by the plastic wrapping), it seems to be a live album featuring a coupla songs I didn't catch, tho' it *did* have "The Kick In- side" on it. Bizarro. Only $10, too. Anyone ever seen this thing anywhere else? Also, I understand the new Gabriel album is due in May and will be called "Good"... oh yes, does anyone know anything about the double-album bootleg "Peter Gabriel - The King of Rhythm"? It has lotsa old stuff on it, like "Humdrum", "Moribund the Burgermeister", and stuff like that. "Recent convert", indeed! I ran out and picked up "Hounds of Love", but I have a slight problem... when I attempted to make a tape copy for my walkperson, I discovered (much to my dismay) that the damn thing doesn't fit on a C90!! Has anyone tried and succeeded?? This is most annoying. Having a wonderful day in a one-way world, Joe ------------------ "We like to look 16 and bored shitless." - David Johanssen [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Tue, 18 Mar 86 09:32:38 PST From: jordan@ucbarpa.berkeley.edu (Jordan Hayes) Subject: Re: weird movies Re: 8 1/2 bringing to mind Stardust Memories ... 8 1/2 was done first, obviously, but I saw SM first ... thought "hey -- some of this is funny, but not as much as everyone thinks ..." -- then I saw 8 1/2 and laughed my seams apart. It's an obvious parody on 8 1/2 -- very well done, in fact. Woodie has done his homework (again!) /jordan [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Tuesday, 18 Mar 1986 07:44:54-PST From: hall%beta.DEC@decwrl.DEC.COM (DAN HALL) Subject: re: A few questions.. >Really-From: Serling%UMass.BITNET@WISCVM.WISC.EDU (Living in the Twilight >Zone ) >2) I've taken to Shriekback the minute I picked up their latest album. > > I am also aware of the existance of a completely different version of > Jam Science, which came about due to producer problems. Can anyone > give me some history of he band, and perhaps fill in anything I'm not > aware of? > Mitch Shriekback started as a trio made up of Barry Andrews (formerly of XTC and the League of Gentlemen), Dave Allen (formerly of Gang of Four), and Carl Marsh (formerly of Out On Blue Six). Where did you hear about _TENCH_? That's news to me - I've never heard of that album (I thought _CARE_ was the first). Couple other things....Nemesis b/w Suck (live) is the double EP, with the second disk being a live version of Mothloop, and Feelers. Fish Below The Ice (the Plankton Enriched Mix) is b/w Coelacanth. The other version of _Jam Science_ (b+w cover, with a screw on it) was released by Y Records without Shriekback's permission, but I don't know what the problem was. It only has about 8 tunes on it, but two or three of them aren't on the Arista version of _Jam Science_. Here's a few EPs you didn't list; 1. Hand On My Heart (remixes) Jumping on the Ribcage (with the digital Rasta) Nerve Cloud of Nails (Pump up a storm) Mistah Linn - He Dead 2. Hand on my Heart b/w Suck, + Nerve (also available as picture disc) 3. Working on the Ground b/w Nightwork The one from _Care_ whose name escaped you was probably Lined Up - My Spine (has a photo of a sidewinder on it). Also a pic disc of this. There's yet another version of Suck on Debut #3, a music magazine and LP. The six track mini is called Knowledge, Power, Truth and Sex. The domestic and import of _Care_ differs by a few tunes. Enjoy the music! -Dan "This is as much as I know, this is all they told me" --Only Thing That Shines _OIL AND GOLD_ [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Tue, 18 Mar 86 15:46:49 EST From: nessus (Doug Alan) Subject: Re: Bootleg City > From: CUTTER%UMass.BITNET@WISCVM.WISC.EDU > Whilst perusing my local (sorta) record store, I noticed an > interesting record in the Kate section - it was a 5 or 6 song album > from the Kate Bush Fan Club of Taiwan. Badly printed cover (i.e. > cardboard with a slip of paper held on by the plastic wrapping), it > seems to be a live album featuring a coupla songs I didn't catch, > tho' it *did* have "The Kick In- side" on it. Bizarro. Only $10, > too. Anyone ever seen this thing anywhere else? Yeah, it's one of the two common KB bootlegs. But I think it has quite a bit more than 5 or 6 songs. It should also say "Kate Bush Live in Paris '79" (or something like that) on it. The fidelity isn't so hot -- it was probably recorded on someone's handheld recorder. But, it has a really wild version of "Egypt" on it that has bongo drums, etc., and is totally different from what appears on "Never For Ever". If you ever see a bootleg tape of a complete concert anywhere, you should definitely pick it up (the bootleg albums are extremely edited), because there were all sorts of bizarre stuff inbetween songs in the concert, including strange chants, spacy poetry reading, etc. I have a tape of the concert Kate did with Peter Gabriel and Steve Harley. They all did "Let It Be" together, Peter did "The Woman With The Child In Her Eyes", and Peter and Kate did together "I Don't Remember". (Her voice on this one is sure to make your dog commit suicide.) > Also, I understand the new Gabriel album is due in May and will be called > "Good"... "Good"??? Will it have a name in England? What's the source of the rumor? Hey, do you know of any Peter Gabriel fanzines? I sent away to one in England, but I never got a response, so they must be defunct. > I ran out and picked up "Hounds of Love", but I have a slight > problem... when I attempted to make a tape copy for my walkperson, I > discovered (much to my dismay) that the damn thing doesn't fit on a > C90!! Has anyone tried and succeeded?? This is most annoying. It's longer than 45 minutes. Gee, you get more music for the money, and complain! I edited out a song from the HoL side, and put it on the other side of the tape. "Don't fight it son. Confess quickly. If you hold out too long it might jepordize your credit rating." Doug [][][][][][][][][][] Return-Path: Date: Tue, 18 Mar 86 12:24:50 EST From: Susanne E Trowbridge Subject: you can all envy me now... ...I have an interview with ROBYN HITCHCOCK!!! 28 March, the 9:30 Club, Washington DC. Will I dare ask for his autograph? I've been trying not to do that lately...no, I did not ask Mark E. Smith to sign my copy of "Slates" or "Perverted by Language." I used to collect autographs back in high school. I have Debby Boone's, David Hartman's, Gene Siskel's...now aren't you impressed?! Sue [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Tue, 18 Mar 86 21:06:56 EST From: nessus (Doug Alan) Subject: Re: you can all envy me now... > From: Susanne E Trowbridge > ...I have an interview with ROBYN HITCHCOCK!!! 28 March, the 9:30 > Club, Washington DC. Hey, nifto groovy! So what are you going to ask him? What size shoe does he wear? Is his hair real? How many pinheads can dance on an angel? > Will I dare ask for his autograph? I got him to autograph "I Often Dream Of Trains" and "Black Snake Diamond Role" and he didn't spit on me or anything... > I used to collect autographs back in high school. I have Debby > Boone's, David Hartman's, Gene Siskel's...now aren't you impressed?! Oh! Debby Boone, swoon, swoon... But I have Bob McCalister's and Doug Henning's. "You wear the Lizard's shoes And afterwards you get confused" Doug P.S. But, I admit, my favorite one is still "To Doug love from Kate Bush X" [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Tue, 18 Mar 86 21:14:09 EST From: hsut@ec.purdue.edu (Bill Hsu) Subject: Re: envy How about asking Robyn Hitchcock to draw some comix on your copy of Fegmania? That's certainly more interesting than getting his autograph :-) Bill [][][][][][][][][][] -- It's like a jungle sometimes, it makes me wonder how I keep from goin' under. Greg Skinner (gregbo) {decvax!genrad, allegra, gatech, ihnp4}!mit-eddie!gds gds@eddie.mit.edu