Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 (Tek) 9/28/84 based on 9/17/84; site shark.UUCP Path: utzoo!decvax!ittatc!dcdwest!sdcsvax!ncr-sd!hp-sdd!hplabs!tektronix!orca!shark!galenr From: galenr@shark.UUCP (Galen Redfield) Newsgroups: net.abortion Subject: Re: Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness Message-ID: <1650@shark.UUCP> Date: Fri, 7-Mar-86 21:30:18 EST Article-I.D.: shark.1650 Posted: Fri Mar 7 21:30:18 1986 Date-Received: Sun, 9-Mar-86 20:39:53 EST References: <11560@watnot.UUCP> <9534@ucla-cs.ARPA> <610@bunkerb.UUCP> Reply-To: galenr@shark.UUCP (Galen Redfield) Distribution: na Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Wilsonville, Oregon Lines: 49 [Trim, trim] >Pardon me for butting into someone else's argument. Pardon us all, if you would be so kind. I have deleted some 163 lines of arguments over the personhood of fetus, the right to live, marriage, your uncle's big toe, and on and on....where, as usual, neither side convinced the other of anything. It seems to me that there are two controversies that are being "discussed" (snicker) in this newsgroup. One controversy involves the practice of abortion itself (is it moral or immoral, good or bad, right or wrong, whatever or not whatever). The other controversy (the only one we should be discussing, in my opinion) is the legality of the practice. As far as I can figure out, the legality of abortion is something real and tangible that humans can establish or change according to the collective opinion, while its morality may be discussed until doomsday without resolution or consensus. But, supposing that we must deal with both controversies, let me now suggest that there are four sides to the two questions (let's get binary): 1) Those who think abortion should be illegal because it is wrong, 2) Those who think abortion should not be illegal even though it is wrong, 3) Those who think abortion should not be illegal because it is not wrong, and 4) Those who think abortion should be illegal even though it is not wrong. (I am using the word "wrong" in a broad vague sense to cover all the objections that people have to the practice of abortion.) The last group seems nonsensical to me, but I suppose it is possible that some people may think abortion should be illegal for no reason. I think we hear most of the argument between groups one and three, and I guess that is understandable. However, I speculate that most people belong to the second group, and are largely amused when not distressed by the arguments of the verbal opponents from the other two groups. On second thought, I probably just made all this up as a joke. ---------- Warm regards, Galen.