Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site jhunix.UUCP Path: utzoo!decvax!decwrl!pyramid!pesnta!hplabs!qantel!dual!lll-lcc!lll-crg!gymble!umcp-cs!aplcen!jhunix!ins_bbdg From: ins_bbdg@jhunix.UUCP (James T. Kirk) Newsgroups: net.abortion Subject: Re: Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness Message-ID: <2156@jhunix.UUCP> Date: Mon, 10-Mar-86 11:43:46 EST Article-I.D.: jhunix.2156 Posted: Mon Mar 10 11:43:46 1986 Date-Received: Wed, 12-Mar-86 23:32:34 EST References: <11560@watnot.UUCP> <173@valid.UUCP> Distribution: na Organization: Honest Jim's Used Heavy Cruisers Lines: 30 > An abortion is still less life-threatening to the mother than a full-term > pregnancy. If indeed "1 fetus == 1 mother", there is no problem. > It's better for 100 fetuses to become children and for 3 women to die in > childbirth. But if they are not equal, where is the proper trade-off point? > I submit that it is better for 10,000 fetuses to die in abortions than for 1 > woman to die from an unwanted pregnancy. > > Which of you "pro-lifers" wants to dispute my last statement? > -- > -Pete Zakel (..!{hplabs,amd,pyramid,ihnp4}!pesnta!valid!pete) I am a "pro-choicer," and I'll dispute it. Granted, statistics show that pregnancy is more life-threatening than an abortion done by a competent physician; I have seen the statistics. You state that "it is *better* for 10,000 fetuses to die in abortions than for 1 woman to die from an unwanted pregnancy." I put it to you: who are you to put values on one person's life? How do you know the value of those 10,000 fetuses? Finally, how can you possibly equate them? Obviously, the value of an individual fetus is different from person to person; that's why we have this net. You seem to assume that your value of the fetus is the same as everybody else's. Each person must decide for himself whether your statement is true or false, or how far it is from accurate. -- Nothing is foolproof, because fools are so ingenious. UUCP: seismo!umcp-cs \ BITNET: INS_BBDG@JHUVMS ihnp4!whuxcc > !jhunix!ins_bbdg P13I2691@JHUVM allegra!hopkins / CSNET: ins_bbdg@jhunix.CSNET ARPA: ins_bbdg%jhunix.BITNET@wiscvm.WISC.EDU