Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site cbdkc1.UUCP Path: utzoo!decvax!bellcore!ulysses!burl!clyde!cbosgd!cbdkc1!pmd From: pmd@cbdkc1.UUCP (Paul M. Dubuc) Newsgroups: net.abortion Subject: Re: Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness Message-ID: <1344@cbdkc1.UUCP> Date: Tue, 11-Mar-86 13:17:37 EST Article-I.D.: cbdkc1.1344 Posted: Tue Mar 11 13:17:37 1986 Date-Received: Wed, 12-Mar-86 23:38:50 EST References: <11560@watnot.UUCP> <9534@ucla-cs.ARPA> <610@bunkerb.UUCP> <179@valid.UUCP> Reply-To: pmd@dkc1.UUCP (Paul M. Dubuc) Distribution: na Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Columbus Lines: 48 Keywords: adoption In article <179@valid.UUCP> pete@valid.UUCP (Pete Zakel) writes: >The statement about the waiting list for adoption is EXTREMELY misleading. >Yes, there are many people looking for a child to adopt. But what KIND of >child? A WHITE one. > >There are many "adoptable" babies, young children, etc., that are NOT white >that are begging to get adopted. But the majority of adopting parents are >white and want white children. And what about problem children? Rather than >being adopted they are usually just shuttled from one foster family to another. >Which ends up costing society because problem children become problem adults. >-- >-Pete Zakel (..!{hplabs,amd,pyramid,ihnp4}!pesnta!valid!pete) So what is a consistent answer to the problem with regard to abortion? If the lack of "adoptability" is used a justification for abortion (and it often is) then it is only a justification for those who don't get adopted. The point is that, for any given individual, (we all like to be treated like individulals and not statistics, don't we?) no one really knows whether a child is "adoptable" or not until she has had a chance to be adopted. To tell a Black woman that *her* baby is not adoptable because she is Black is appropriating statistics to determine an individual's fate (a common misuse of statistics). Finding adoptive parents *is* more difficult for minority children in general, but that doesn't say much about any particular minority child. (If pro-choice folks wan't to argue for abortion as an individual choice then they ought to use arguments that make sense on the individual level). This issue is complicated by the fact that often the state will not allow a black child to be adopted by a white couple because there is an impression that this is not the proper setting for the child's upbringing. Another question about these "problem" children is whether or not they "should" be unwanted. Accepting the fact that they are is one thing, but proposing abortion as part of the answer only reinforces the notion that it is OK to "get rid of" "problem" children. With abortion we justify getting rid of those whom we statically predict will fall into the "unwanted" or "problem" category (and tacitly use it to justify the abortion of those that won't--just for equality's sake, I suppose). But the question still remains: Is it acceptable for these "problem" children to be shunned by society? Any solution that makes the child bear all the consequences seems to imply that it is. We might admit that our attitudes toward such children are really predjudice and ought to change. But we are really accomodating those attitudes when we propose solutions that involve getting rid of those who are the object of such attitudes. -- Paul Dubuc cbdkc1!pmd