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From: cs111olg@ucla-cs.UUCP
Newsgroups: net.abortion
Subject: Re: Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness
Message-ID: <9790@ucla-cs.ARPA>
Date: Tue, 11-Mar-86 22:23:30 EST
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Posted: Tue Mar 11 22:23:30 1986
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References: <11560@watnot.UUCP> <9534@ucla-cs.ARPA> <610@bunkerb.UUCP>
Reply-To: cs111olg@ucla-cs.UUCP (Oleg Kiselev (the student incarnation))
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In article <610@bunkerb.UUCP> garys@bunkerb.UUCP (Gary M. Samuelson) writes
in answer to my article <9534@ucla-cs.ARPA>:
>>I beleive the life of the mother is of a far greater import.
>Why?  Proof by vigorous assertion?

No. Mother is (1) alive, (2) person, (3) human being, (4) protected by
the laws of the land which reflect the popular opinion, (5) has some
ties with other people.

This last one(5) is the most important one ofthem all. As a grown and 
(hopefuly) mature PERSON, the mother has a societal value in terms of
her own productivity and the influence she has on productivity of other
PERSONS. Her death (like removal of anything which has non-material value
[by non-material I mean emotional,expectational,attachment or aestetic values])
will cause some people grief and will therefore harm them, harming their
productivity. That's bad for society, bad for individual.

An abortion causes no such commotion in people's lives. If the fetus was
wanted (and had that non-material value of people's love and anticipation)
it would have never been aborted in the first place!

If that was "Proof by vigorous asertion" than be it. 
					Oleg Kiselev