Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site mmm.UUCP Path: utzoo!decvax!bellcore!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxn!ihnp4!mmm!schley From: schley@mmm.UUCP (Steve Schley) Newsgroups: net.audio Subject: Re: mail order audio equipment reliability vs. their price Message-ID: <588@mmm.UUCP> Date: Thu, 6-Mar-86 10:18:53 EST Article-I.D.: mmm.588 Posted: Thu Mar 6 10:18:53 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 8-Mar-86 11:41:07 EST References: <149@hfhrv.UUCP> <400@ur-tut.UUCP> Reply-To: schley@mmm.UUCP (Steve Schley) Distribution: na Organization: 3M Company, St. Paul, Minn. Lines: 40 Keywords: Quality of audio equipment. Summary: In article <400@ur-tut.UUCP> junk@ur-tut.UUCP (Jan Vandenbrande) writes: >.... > A friend of mine (who has a friend working in a plant where > stereo equipment is made) claims the following: > Each finished article is checked against a reference (what ever that > actually may be) in the factory. If the article is superior > to the refernce it gets a good grade (A), if it just about matches > the refernce (+/- some tolerance) it gets a passing grade (P), and > those who are below the standard a failing grade. > > The friend claims that the stereo components with grade A go to > the "fine" stores, the ones with a passing grade to the discount > stores. What happens to those that failed he did not want to > elaborate. I assume that they fix them up and than sell "em. > I find this very hard to believe. I have been acquainted with some local manufacturers of audio equipment (Magnepan, Audio Research, DLK, SoundMates/Janszen), and I have never experienced anything like this. What I have seen is this: Some manufacturers have better quality control, and all their products are high quality, whereas other manufacturers have poorer quality control, and an individual product's quality is governed more by chance. I cannot fathom a manufacturer allowing their quality to drop while at the same time instituting a "selection" process at the end. It's more difficult to do what you suggest than to get control of the quality process. I think that your friend is having a bit of fun with you. I am glad that you didn't post the name of the manufacturer; ugly rumors are dreadfully hard to stop once they've been started. By the way, there is something known in the retailing business as B-goods. These, as I understand it, are products that were returned by purchasers under warranty, and have been "factory refurbished", whatever that might mean. They are (in my experience) clearly labeled as B-goods and command stiff pricing reductions over the standard fare. -- Steve Schley ihnp4!mmm!schley