Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!decvax!ittatc!dcdwest!sdcsvax!sdcrdcf!hplabs!qantel!dual!lll-lcc!lll-crg!seismo!rochester!bullwinkle!uw-beaver!fluke!ssc-vax!clark From: clark@ssc-vax.UUCP (Roger Clark Swann) Newsgroups: net.auto Subject: Citation Shifting Problem Message-ID: <659@ssc-vax.UUCP> Date: Wed, 19-Mar-86 19:50:26 EST Article-I.D.: ssc-vax.659 Posted: Wed Mar 19 19:50:26 1986 Date-Received: Sun, 23-Mar-86 11:18:10 EST Distribution: na Organization: Boeing Aerospace Co., Seattle, WA Lines: 37 >>> line eater <<< This note was prompted by John Kane's recent posting of a Honda shifting problem. I know that Citaions are notorious for shifting like a truck, but I would like to find out how concerned I should be about the problem....(i.e. what is typical). I recently had the manual transmission in my 1980 Citation replaced with a *rebuilt* unit for the small fee of $700 . This car has been difficult to shift from day one, ( I am the original owner ). The replacement came about from the fact that I couldn't engage first gear and it was very hard to get into other gears. The dealer that did the work told me that there was metal shavings in the unit, the shifter forks were totally worn out, and the bearings were pealing metal. Well, now I have been driving my replacement transmission for a couple of months and this unit has a problem getting into first gear. I had it back to the dealer and they agreed that it was * a little stiff *, but that I should drive it for awhile longer before they do anything to it.... My impressions: 1) I had hoped that I was getting a newer version of the trans. which had the bugs worked out of it. I think I got the same old type that was originally in the car ( this vintage had known problems ). 2) I think I am geting put off by the dealer. I really don't believe that a * break in * period will do any good. I have never seen a *good* new car that needed to have the manual trans. broken-in. I would like to hear any comments on the above, especially from Citation (or other GM) owners. Roger Swann !ssc-vax!clark