Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!bellcore!decvax!decwrl!glacier!oliveb!hplabs!qantel!lll-lcc!lll-crg!seismo!columbia!garfield!polish From: polish@garfield.columbia.edu (Nathaniel Polish) Newsgroups: net.columbia Subject: Re: What price safety? (was: Escape tower for shuttle orbiter?) Message-ID: <1418@garfield.columbia.edu> Date: Fri, 14-Mar-86 16:45:11 EST Article-I.D.: garfield.1418 Posted: Fri Mar 14 16:45:11 1986 Date-Received: Tue, 18-Mar-86 01:20:55 EST References: <418@watcgl.UUCP> <627@bentley.UUCP> <2024@peora.UUCP> <635@bentley.UUCP> Reply-To: polish@garfield.UUCP (Nathaniel Polish) Organization: Columbia University CS Department Lines: 13 It should be pointed out that in all these systems where relatively fragile cargo is riding on top of several million pounds of thrust that we are dependant on EVERYTHING working. All the senerios involve everyone of thousands of components working perfecting with one or two non-critical systems failing. Virtually nothing will save you from a crit 1 failure because of the forces involved and the speed. This is why they are crit 1. Ejection systems are only useful if they can realistically be used and rehersed with well defined parameters for their use. One of the IEEE rags mentioned recently that ditching is possable (release of the orbiter during SRB thrust). Ditching is considered so dangerous that it is not a practiced abort mode. It is a simple fact that there are a class of failures from which there is no reasonable escape. An escape rocket might save you from a few failures but it hardly is obvious which ones.