Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site chronon.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!bellcore!decvax!decwrl!amdcad!chronon!eric From: eric@chronon.UUCP (Eric Black) Newsgroups: net.consumers Subject: Re: RS phone cords (really party lines) Message-ID: <176@chronon.UUCP> Date: Wed, 12-Mar-86 15:37:47 EST Article-I.D.: chronon.176 Posted: Wed Mar 12 15:37:47 1986 Date-Received: Fri, 14-Mar-86 07:43:56 EST References: <1130@milano.UUCP> Organization: Chronon Computer Corp., Mtn. View, CA Lines: 50 >> For party lines with two parties this means nobody gets >> a ring meant for the other party. If there are more than two parties >> on the line, the long-short-count-'em codes for rings must be used. > >Not quite true. For my first 3 years in my farmhouse, I was on a 4-party >line and we each got only the rings that were meant for us. There was a >"ring decoder" outside the house which apparently took care of the "address >recognition". One caveat (no explanation offered) is that I couldn't get >touch-tone service with the party line. Telco said it would mess up the >other people on the party line. >------- > Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most. > >Michael L. Begeman Microelectronics and Computer Technology Corp >Software Technology Program Austin (where the sun always shines) Texas > >uucp: {ihnp4, seismo, harvard, gatech, pyramid}!ut-sally!im4u!milano!begeman >arpa: begeman@mcc.ARPA I greatly simplified the discussion to explain why more than 2 wires could be needed. There are several methods of selective ringing, ranging from the bridged ringer scheme using ground that I described to frequency- selective ringers (the bell itself is physically constructed so as to resonate at 20, 30, 50, 60 (or whatever) cps and AC of the appropriate frequency is used from the CO (Central Office). On rural subscriber loops (several customers on the end of a long pair of wires) in recent years has been implemented a method which all of us high-tech-types would love -- a small number of talk lines, and a digital control channel from the CO talking to a "bathtub" out in the boonies; the talk circuits are assigned as needed, and the remote bathtub connects each subscriber to the appropriate talk circuit to get to the CO (what's that you say? Sounds like a mini PBX? How 'bout that!). Anyway, for those of us living out in the middle of nowhere (I myself am on the edge of nowhere, out in the redwoods), the high cost of copper has made service from TPC somewhat of an on-again, off-again hassle. I am ecstatic to see the economic incentive for TPC to use party lines going away with improving technology. But as the recent rains have pointed out, we're still a small number of customers on the end of a long wire, and whenever we have trouble it takes a while for TPC to take care of it (they're busy fixing the break that has 10,000 customers disconnected, why should they hurry to get 25 back up?). -- Eric Black "Garbage In, Gospel Out" UUCP: {sun,pyramid,hplabs,amdcad}!chronon!eric VOICE: (415) 941-0403 US SNAIL: Chronon Computer Corp. 2570 El Camino Real W. Suite 206 Mountain View, CA 94040