Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!ucbvax!ernie.berkeley.edu!tedrick From: tedrick@ernie.berkeley.edu (Tom Tedrick) Newsgroups: net.crypt,net.politics Subject: Engima and the Eastern Front Message-ID: <12371@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> Date: Fri, 14-Mar-86 03:37:21 EST Article-I.D.: ucbvax.12371 Posted: Fri Mar 14 03:37:21 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 15-Mar-86 19:47:34 EST Sender: usenet@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: tedrick@ernie.berkeley.edu (Tom Tedrick) Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 61 Keywords: Stalingrad Xref: watmath net.crypt:601 net.politics:13922 from Panzer Battles, by Major General F. W. von Mellenthin (Ballentine paperback edition, printed 1984) (First published 1956) (a good book, by the way, for those interested in the subject) [on the encirclemnt of German forces at Stalingrad, pages 201-203] " ... meanwhile the Russian offensive had been launched with a crushing superiority in numbers and all the advantages of surprise." "On 19 November General Rokossovsky's Tank Army attacked in overwhelming strength ... in conjunction with an attack from [another bridgehead] ... both blows fell on Rumanians ... I pass in silence the scenes of panic and confusion produced by this new Russian offensive; the two thrusts made rapid headway ..." [a frequent Soviet tactic was (and is :-) to attack the weakest points, in this case the Rumanian armies, whose morale, training and equipment was below the German standard. This illustrates one way in which information about locations of enemy forces is useful. Since voluminous reports were sent from the front to Hitler containing such information, cryptographic intercepts would have been particularly rich sources of such information. Of course there are other ways of getting some idea of where enemy forces are, but there is nothing like having the whole thing handed to you on a silver platter via crypto intercepts.] "On 20 November things began to happen around Stalingrad ... ... Something very serious must have happened." "On 21 November we heard from our supply troops ... that Russian tanks were approaching ... other supply units informed us by wireless that Russians were approaching ... " [the point is that the Soviet attack went through an area without regular troops, indicating that the Soviets knew where German forces were located.] "It was clear that the encirclement of Stalingrad would soon be a reality ..." "On 24 November it became very clear beyond any doubt that we had been encircled by strong Russian forces." "... Russian forces, ... had advanced ... from the south without encountering any serious resistance, as there were no German fighting troops in that sector, only supply units." [again, the Soviets were able to attack at the weakest point, by knowing locations of German forces.] "At the end of November Colonel General Paulus, commander in chief of Sixth Army, decided to launch an attack in a westerly direction to break the encirclement ... but Hitler sent the order [via ENIGMA] 'Hold out. Relief will come from outside.'" [being able to read such signals would obviously be of great help to the Soviets]