Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!mit-eddie!think!harvard!seismo!ut-sally!brian From: brian@ut-sally.UUCP (Brian H. Powell) Newsgroups: net.cse Subject: Re: Teaching (and Grading on) Style Message-ID: <4385@ut-sally.UUCP> Date: Sat, 8-Mar-86 01:17:09 EST Article-I.D.: ut-sally.4385 Posted: Sat Mar 8 01:17:09 1986 Date-Received: Sun, 9-Mar-86 09:27:27 EST References: <11577@watnot.UUCP> <148@umcp-cs.UUCP> Organization: U. Texas CS Dept., Austin, Texas Lines: 31 Summary: killing people for bad style In article <148@umcp-cs.UUCP>, mangoe@umcp-cs.UUCP (Charley Wingate) writes: > When I graded programs in the elementary courses, I gave out > only 50% of the points on functionality. Everything else was on style. [... discussion on style.] > > In my opinion, you can't hammer enough on style. > > C. Wingate If you don't mind flunking a lot of people, or curving a lot. I agree with Charley that IN ELEMENTARY (e.g., freshman/sophomore) COURSES, style is more important than functionality. I used to grade really tough on style. It helped get better style out of the students, but at the expense of grades (therefore at the expense of a student's enthusiasm and motivation.) You can bring their style up to a certain almost-acceptable level, but after that, they feel like you're nit- picking. (i.e., they felt they just couldn't please me, no matter what they did.) After a few semesters, I decided to lighten up on the points taken off. I still used lots and lots of red ink pointing out bad style. I still pointed out bad style in class. (displaying a bad program in front of the whole class. embarrasing...) The students worked to get the style better. I guess if you miss 50 out of 100 because of style, you get discouraged. If you miss 5 or 10 out of 100, you don't; you work to get those last 5 or 10 points. BUT, you still have to verbally impress the importance of style on them. Brian H. Powell UUCP: {ihnp4,seismo,ctvax}!ut-sally!brian ARPA: brian@sally.UTEXAS.EDU