Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!mit-eddie!think!harvard!seismo!hao!noao!terak!doug From: doug@terak.UUCP (Doug Pardee) Newsgroups: net.cse Subject: Re: Math and CS Message-ID: <1083@terak.UUCP> Date: Fri, 7-Mar-86 18:55:17 EST Article-I.D.: terak.1083 Posted: Fri Mar 7 18:55:17 1986 Date-Received: Mon, 10-Mar-86 08:18:46 EST References: <1194@mit-eddie.MIT.EDU> Organization: Calcomp Display Products Division, Scottsdale, AZ, USA Lines: 45 > Actually, this brings me to a deeper question. I have always wondered > why some hackers just didn't grit their teeth and suffer through the N > years to get their degrees. Considering the fact that it was easy for > them to grind out their programs, they could have coasted through all > their programming projects and devoted some of the energy that went > into their programs into learning linear algebra, modern algebra, and > all that other stuff... > > I don't know, maybe I am missing some fundamental issue regarding the > difference between those who sweated out all the courses towards their > degree and those who didn't. I would appreciate some enlightenment > though. A fair question. Since I was a hacker who never finished my degree, I'm at least slightly qualified to suggest some answers. First, that all-knowing philosopher "/usr/games/fortune" tells us that "Life is what happens to you while you're making other plans." In my case, a full-time job offer came along. Since I was one of five kids being supported by my mother on her GS-3 salary [everyone say "Awwww!"], an opportunity to switch from being a financial negative to a positive was hard to pass up, especially since my starting salary was more than my mother was making. And two years later, I got married, thereby closing the door on any chance of returning to starving studenthood. Second, after three years of college I was still a freshman. This was because the courses I needed to take were always closed by the time they were offered to freshmen. In retrospect, I can see that this was simply because the college I attended was *very* popular for junior college transferees. But at the time, I tried to fight the system, and lost regularly. I never had more than a 1/2-time workload. But more to the point, perhaps... I managed over the course of five years of "part-time" study to take all of the math/science/computer courses I needed for my degree (Math w/ CS minor). And *still* I was barely a sophomore. Ahead were three full-time years worth of Physical Education, History of World Religions, and other such courses that I had no interest in whatever. Continuing part-time, it would consume most of my free time for at least a decade. Not very appealing to a newly-wed. So, since my career was doing just fine without a degree, I simply dropped the matter. I haven't regretted it. For me, it was the right decision. -- Doug Pardee -- CalComp -- {hardy,savax,seismo,decvax,ihnp4}!terak!doug