Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!mit-eddie!think!harvard!cmcl2!philabs!pwa-b!utah-gr!thomas From: thomas@utah-gr.UUCP Newsgroups: net.cse Subject: Re: A slightly different topic... Message-ID: <1702@utah-gr.UUCP> Date: Sat, 8-Mar-86 18:44:20 EST Article-I.D.: utah-gr.1702 Posted: Sat Mar 8 18:44:20 1986 Date-Received: Wed, 12-Mar-86 04:18:16 EST References: <393@ur-tut.UUCP> <1500@gitpyr.UUCP> Reply-To: thomas@utah-gr.UUCP (Spencer W. Thomas) Organization: University of Utah CS Dept Lines: 21 We run accounting on all our "big" machines here (except the instructional vax) for one very good reason. It provides a mechanism to transfer money from the federal government (via "research grants") to the computing facility. The facility, even if it were to never buy another piece of equipment still requires many K$ each year to keep running. It's a lot easier to convince the auditors (the source of much evil in the world) that charges for computer "time" are reasonable than to convince them that you were justified in getting $X in your grant and "giving" it all to the facility. Never has anyone been "kicked off" the machine for using too much CPU time (this includes my 1000 hour ray tracing runs). The little machines (Apollo, Sun) that are typically used by one person are charged on a flat per month "maintenance" fee. All of this is "funny" money only in the sense that when your grant runs out, you can still keep using the machine (with no penalty). It is an extra added attraction that we can charge "outside" users *real money* to use the facility. -- =Spencer ({ihnp4,decvax}!utah-cs!thomas, thomas@utah-cs.ARPA)