Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site duke.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!bellcore!decvax!mcnc!duke!crm From: crm@duke.UUCP (Charlie Martin) Newsgroups: net.cse Subject: Re: Math and CS Message-ID: <7011@duke.UUCP> Date: Fri, 14-Mar-86 09:59:03 EST Article-I.D.: duke.7011 Posted: Fri Mar 14 09:59:03 1986 Date-Received: Sun, 16-Mar-86 00:46:14 EST References: <256@hropus.UUCP> <6400005@ccvaxa> <77@umcp-cs.UUCP> <1413@garfield.columbia.edu> <6988@duke.UUCP> <767@harvard.UUCP> Reply-To: crm@duke.UUCP (Charlie Martin) Organization: Duke University Lines: 48 Summary: In article <767@harvard.UUCP> greg@harvard.UUCP (Greg) writes: >In article <6988@duke.UUCP> crm@duke.UUCP (Charlie Martin) writes: >>The basic point of [Knuth's] article was that there are two styles of >>thought involved, and that being good at one *does not* imply >>that one is good at the other. As one who is good at algorithmic >>thinking and had to struggle with math, I can certainly attest to it. > >I for one don't like making a strict dichotomy between math and computer >science. There is no one "way of thinking" in mathematics; there are >approaches to each field of mathematics, and each approach requires different >thought processes in varying degrees. As far as there being more that one way of thinking in mathematics -- I'm not sure I believe you. Have you any evidence? Don't take this tquestion too seriously, as I am also not certain that "ways of thinking" are well-defined.... >.... >Certainly some fields of mathematics are very algorithmic, like complexity >theory, while some fields in computer science are very mathematical, like >mathematical computer graphics. There certainly is no question that certain fields of math *can be understood algorithmically* -- that is certainly the way I understood integration and differentiation when I first learned about them. (Now I just use infinitestimals when I can -- shows you what getting interested in logic can do.) But *my point* is that there are two styles of thought, and some people come more easily to one than the other. I come more easily to algorithmic thinking, and less so to mathematical. Math is harder for me. But I still find it useful. >For example, if you had a position open for a researcher in the state-of- >the-art computer graphics, and Richard Feynman and my friend-Teddy-with-a- >C.S.-degree applied for the job, which should you hire? My answer is Richard >Feynman, because he is a genius, while Teddy is not, despite the fact that >Feynman's degree is in physics. >-- >gregregreg I'd hire Dick Feynmann because he's an artist, and thus has knowledge of the problem domain. But I understand he's pretty happy at CalTech, I don't think we could get him. -- Charlie Martin (...mcnc!duke!crm)