Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!mit-eddie!think!harvard!seismo!rochester!ritcv!jxs7451 From: jxs7451@ritcv.UUCP Newsgroups: net.cse Subject: Re: working programs Message-ID: <9448@ritcv.UUCP> Date: Fri, 14-Mar-86 21:31:40 EST Article-I.D.: ritcv.9448 Posted: Fri Mar 14 21:31:40 1986 Date-Received: Sun, 16-Mar-86 09:44:34 EST References: <9431@ritcv.UUCP> <244@umcp-cs.UUCP> Reply-To: jxs7451@ritcv.UUCP (jeff) Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology, Rochester, NY Lines: 33 Let me add a little more on the subject, because my last article may have been a little unclear. I thing that the 0/1 grading is not right. There are other things like style, and the rest that are important. But the thing that scares me is there is a very good chance that there are graduating CS majors that have never wrote a program that worked entierly. This, if i were an employer would tend to scare me. But the problems that occured in the class that i mentioned before were, i feel, were particually bad. Students were handing in programs that **would not compile**. I'm not talking about little things like(this was Pascal) "varx is neither used or set", it was in some cases things like that generate "Error code 1. Stop." I know that this is not like this in all CS courses here at RIT, but in this particular class wanted to do no work, and the professor let them get away with it more or less. And this was a course that required about 1200 - 1500 lines of Pascal. If i can say so, people were handing in stuff that desirved no more than 20 percent, were getting 65's. About the straight A student that coulnt program his way out of a paper bag, i don't know. It sort of scares me the way some Universities work today, but then again i guess i am a cynic. jeff "in sunny downtown Rochester"(or something like that) UUCP: {allegra,seismo}!rochester!ritcv!jxs7451 CSNET: jxs7451%rit@csnet-relay.ARPA BITNET: JMS7451@RITVAXC "Anything i said here was not hllped by the s`*$$y phone line i'm on"