Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site dartvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!bellcore!decvax!dartvax!kapil From: kapil@dartvax.UUCP (Kapil Khetan) Newsgroups: net.invest Subject: Re: Stock market is NOT a present value machine Message-ID: <4313@dartvax.UUCP> Date: Sat, 15-Mar-86 20:36:21 EST Article-I.D.: dartvax.4313 Posted: Sat Mar 15 20:36:21 1986 Date-Received: Mon, 17-Mar-86 03:27:06 EST References: <2023@uwmacc.UUCP> Reply-To: kapil@dartvax.UUCP (Kapil Khetan) Distribution: net Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH Lines: 39 Keywords: You are ignoring the discount rate Summary: >Someone mentioned that the stock market is just a present value machine >This can't be totally true, because then every stock with a given P/E >ratio would sell at exactly the same price, right? A quick glance >at the stock listings shows this not to be the case. Comments? > > Jeff Percival ...!uwvax!uwmacc!jwp Correct me if I have misunderstood your question, but what you are getting at is "if the stock market is a NPV machine then companies with a certain earning should have the same price, therefore producing the same P/E ratio." You have not taken into account the other component of NPV besides the cash flows (earnings), and that is the rate to discount them at. This rate depends on a lot of factors especially, the company's financial structure, the industry it is in, it's past earnings record and so on. The Capital Asset Pricing Model gives an indication of the discount rate if the following are known: the company's beta, the rate of return for a risk-free rate, the rate of return for a market portfolio. It simply says, the more volatile the stock (beta) the higher the discount rate. This is why Treasury Bills have a very low return (being safe and non-volatile) and stocks in hi-tech companies are discounted at high rates. Thus you might notice that IBM has a very high P/E multiple. This is because it is safe and is not very volatile (the beta should be just slightly higher than 1.0). On the other hand a high-tech company will not have a very high P/E ratio. (You didn't think I would call IBM a high-tech company, did you?) Kapil Khetan kapil@dartvax.UUCP kapil%dartmouth@csnet-relay.ARPA kapil@dartmouth.CSNET Mummies: Egyptians pressed for time