Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!ucbvax!ernie.berkeley.edu!tedrick From: tedrick@ernie.berkeley.edu (Tom Tedrick) Newsgroups: net.jobs Subject: Re: Drug Testing GOOD POINT! Message-ID: <12529@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> Date: Fri, 21-Mar-86 13:13:44 EST Article-I.D.: ucbvax.12529 Posted: Fri Mar 21 13:13:44 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 22-Mar-86 22:40:12 EST References: <263@bu-cs.UUCP> <182@bsdpkh.UUCP> Sender: usenet@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: tedrick@ernie.berkeley.edu.UUCP (Tom Tedrick) Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 26 >>Ok, I'll throw my 2c in. OK, I'll throw my 1c worth in. There are 2 points that seem not to have come up in this discussion. (1). The reason employers can get away with drug testing. (Wealth & Power: ie employers tend to have more than individual employees. If one potential employee won't cooperate, there are lots of other desperate folks willing to accept the drug testing in return for work. So by "divide and conquer" the workers are forced to go along.) (Of course when workers have more power, ie through organizations such as unions, or the labor supply is scarce, for example in highly skilled technical fields, it is more difficult for employers to get away with it.) (2). How to cheat the drug testing system if it exists, and what are the incentives of the parties involved. Usually when this type of protocol is established few people really care to enforce it and it degenerates into a kind of absurd ritual which few really care much about (example is signing loyalty oaths).