Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site rruxd.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!bellcore!petrus!sabre!zeta!epsilon!gamma!pyuxww!pyuxv!rruxa!rruxo!rruxu!rruxc!rruxr!rruxp!rruxff!rruxd!vch From: vch@rruxd.UUCP (Kerro Panille) Newsgroups: net.jobs Subject: Re: Urinalysis...Lie Detectors...all the new rage? Message-ID: <132@rruxd.UUCP> Date: Sun, 23-Mar-86 14:16:30 EST Article-I.D.: rruxd.132 Posted: Sun Mar 23 14:16:30 1986 Date-Received: Tue, 25-Mar-86 03:03:27 EST References: <2581@pixar.pixar> <5127@alice.uUCp> <630@kontron.UUCP> Organization: Colony, Pandora Lines: 42 All this discussion is great, but I haven't seen anyone ask a very simple question: Why the hell *should* my employer care what I do with myself after work? They certianly don't own me. I agree that any employee that comes into work impared by a drug (notice the 'impared.' Over-the-counter stuff doesn't classify as imparing) SHOULD be disciplined. Take 'disciplined' however you like (fired, yelled at, whatever.) But why should an employer be able to descriminate against an employee that drinks/smokes pot/snorts coke/smokes coke/whatever on his own time, and it does not interfere with his/her work? If it starts to interfere with his/her work, then discipline is appropriate. As far as I'm concerned, even if a person is an alcoholic, if they don't drink at work, come to work drunk, or come to work so hung over that they can't function, who the hell cares? It's their life. The same goes for other drugs. I guess that I belive that someone can have a drug problem that isn't 24 hours a day. I once knew a girl that had a terrible problem with alcohol. She could live without drinking forever, if necessary. But give her a drink, and she won't stop until she literally hits the floor. I *do* think that drug rehabilitation that is sponsored by the company is a good idea. I'm not totally insensitive to the alcoholic/drug abuser. But that stuff should not be mandatory, nor job-threatening. General Disclaimer: I'm not saying whether or not I'd fail the test. I'm just saying that it's none of your business anyway. -- Vince Hatem +----------------------------------------+ Bell Communications Research ! "..., isn't that right, Daniel?" ! Raritan River Software Systems Center ! "When you get that look on your face, ! 444 Hoes Lane ! Marty, I go prune my roses." ! 4D-340 ! -Frank Herbert ! Piscatway, NJ 08854 ! Chapterhouse: Dune ! (201) 699-4869 ! pg 459 ! {rrux?, pyux?, bellcore, topaz, +----------------------------------------+ ihnp4}!rruxo!vch