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From: good@pixar (I appreciate Bo Derek for her mind.)
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Subject: Re: Urinalysis...Lie Detectors...all the new rage?
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Date: Sat, 22-Mar-86 14:26:06 EST
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> Look's like the last laugh is going to be on Craig Goody-Two-Shoes after all.

	Hey!  How did *you* know what my CB handle was in another life?

> Guess who his new employer is?  Steve Jobs, who brought the friday afternoon
> beer party to Silicon Valley and, in a national publication, allowed his "top
> professionals" to make thinly-veiled drug-related and scatological remarks, and
	I could tell you some stories...

> were depicted sitting in their offices in gymn clothes, yes, the very same

	Is this the same Steve Jobs, vegetarian?	:-) 	Sadly, the
dress code has become a tad more conservative since he bought in to the
company.  Mostly the Marketing guys, though.  The rest of us still dress like
people.

> Steve Jobs is now the proud owner of Pixar, Inc.

	Steve and I (and the other employees) are co-owners in Pixar (no Inc.).

> Wonder how long Craig will be able to put up with someone else's standards, for
> a change?

	Ok, ok.  As much as I hate the idea, I can see that I'm going to have
to get serious for just a minute.  I can actually put up with other people's
standards for a long, long time.  Thirty years and counting, at the moment.

	Now that I've had my fun tapping you all on the knee, and observing
all the knee jerks I expected, let's see what's what.  I didn't say I support
employee drug testing, I said I believed in good management.  Let market forces
answer the question.  If companies who want to play with people's pee pee
can't get enough employees they will change or go out of business.  Zimple.

	I used to work in the security field and I learned there that if you
want an honest employee you have to treat him like one.  I'd like to think that
(remember, we're being serious now) I, were I an employer, could create an
atmosphere where people felt trusted and comfortable enough to where they
wouldn't feel "driven to drink".  (Ok, semi-serious).

	I tried to get mail back to the person who said I reminded her of a
Nun (untrue: I'd look awful in a habit) but it bounced back.  Obviously there
have been people doing drugs and other nasty things who have made a contribution
to society.  They'd have done better without them, though.  And as for amoral
legislation, you've got me there.  I completely forgot about traffic law! ;-)

		--Craig
		...ucbvax!pixar!good

ps	Didn't you *ever* take the "other side" in an argument just to see
	what the other person thought?  It's soooooo fun sometimes.  Until
	somebody calls you a Nun, that is...