Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!mit-eddie!think!harvard!seismo!brl-adm!brl-smoke!smoke!phr@ernie.berkeley.edu From: phr@ernie.berkeley.edu (Paul Rubin) Newsgroups: net.legal Subject: emacs Message-ID: <1574@brl-smoke.ARPA> Date: Wed, 5-Mar-86 22:40:19 EST Article-I.D.: brl-smok.1574 Posted: Wed Mar 5 22:40:19 1986 Date-Received: Sun, 9-Mar-86 09:30:09 EST Sender: news@brl-smoke.ARPA Lines: 27 From KFL@MC.LCS.MIT.EDU Wed Mar 5 18:10:39 1986 From: "Keith F. Lynch" Subject: emacs Well, GNU Emacs is not available for MS-DOS machines. It requires 525k of memory, which is more than most MS-DOS machines have available anyway. And it costs $165 to order. I think there is a great market for an editor which has everything Emacs has EXCEPT the built in Lisp, and which is relatively small and is available for for $30 to $60 or so. ...Keith The $165 (actually $150) is a tape copying fee; you don't have to pay anything to get a copy of GNU Emacs (just copy it from someone who has it, or ftp it from mit-prep. See net.emacs or the equivalent arpa lists for info on how to do this). $150 is what FSF charges to ship a tape regardless of what is on it. You get a some other software on that tape as well, such as a yacc-compatible parser generator and the all important hack game. Several ersatz (i.e., non-extensible) emacses are being marketed more or less the way you describe. But why get any of them, when you can get Jove or MicroEmacs? There are public domain versions of both of these, and they are quite small. Please move this discussion away from info-law.