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From: larry@kitty.UUCP (Larry Lippman)
Newsgroups: net.legal
Subject: Re: DES
Message-ID: <880@kitty.UUCP>
Date: Sun, 16-Mar-86 11:33:31 EST
Article-I.D.: kitty.880
Posted: Sun Mar 16 11:33:31 1986
Date-Received: Tue, 18-Mar-86 07:30:45 EST
References: <1590@brl-smoke.ARPA> <1537@gitpyr.UUCP>
Organization: Recognition Research Corp., Clarence, NY
Lines: 34
Summary: ANYTHING is possible in the military...

In article <1537@gitpyr.UUCP>, kludge@gitpyr.UUCP (Scott Dorsey) writes:
> Not long ago, I bought an HP 141 oscilloscope military surplus.  Although
> the machine was last calibrated in 1961 (it is a 22 MHz scope that weighs
> over 200 lbs), it was on a 'military supplies list', and I was required to
> sign a form stating that I would not export it, or sell it to any firm 
> engaged in exporting equipment outside the country (etc...).  First of all,
> this just shows you the government's reliability in determining what is 
> truly militarily useful, and also how crude the restrictions are.  Not that
> a restriction on DES could ever be enforced, anyway.

	On the other hand, the military has been known to give away the store.
A minor example from personal experience: In 1983, I purchased a microprocessor
controlled search receiver on a sealed bid sale from the Defense Property
Disposal Office at Brandywine, Maryland.  With the receiver was a box with
twenty pounds (really!) of manuals.  After the receiver was delivered to me
by a common carrier, I discovered that mixed in with the manuals were several
sensitive documents from the late 70's (with classification stamps) pertaining
to the "Empass Project" (collection of electromagnetic signatures) from the
Naval Weapons Laboratory at Dahlgreen, Virginia [the existence and purpose of
this project is not classified, otherwise I wouldn't mention it here]. Needless
to say, I was rather shocked, so I called a friend of mine who works for the
Navy and has a security clearance, and asked his advice as to what I should do.
After kicking around the matter, I felt the best, least complicated course of
action was for me to quietly destroy the documents; since my friend did not
disagree with this suggestion, that is what I did.
	The moral of the story is: ANYTHING is possible with respect to
security of militarily-useful data...

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