Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site cad.UUCP Path: utzoo!lsuc!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!ucbvax!cad!hijab From: hijab@cad.UUCP (Raif Hijab) Newsgroups: net.politics,net.legal Subject: Re: Making War Message-ID: <106@cad.UUCP> Date: Wed, 19-Mar-86 01:47:23 EST Article-I.D.: cad.106 Posted: Wed Mar 19 01:47:23 1986 Date-Received: Thu, 20-Mar-86 18:06:50 EST References: <1753@decwrl.DEC.COM> Organization: U. C. Berkeley CAD Group Lines: 24 Xref: lsuc net.politics:3773 net.legal:1948 Summary: Apply the checks and balances test In article <1753@decwrl.DEC.COM>, mahoney@bartok.DEC writes: > > This fact is that the Constitutional Convention specifically took out the > words "make war" and changed them to "declare war" for powers of congress. > While giving the right to the President as Commander and Cheif the right to > move forces around as he saw fit. Does this give the right to the president > to make war? If the president could make war as s/he saw fit, then the power of the congress to "declare" war would be an empty one. If you apply the general constitutional principle that no branch of government should have absolute power in any one area without being checked by the other two branches, it becomes evident that the interpretation giving wide ranging powers to the president to wage acts of war has been an abuse of the constitution. My guess is that the war making powers given to the president were intended for emergencies where the president had to act in the interim period required for the congress to convene and deliberate. On the outside this should be thought of as a period of days. As to the distinction between "making" and "declaring" war, It seems to me that the constitution gave congress the option of declaring war without necessarily having to engage in hostilities. Thus a war could be declared, to be followed immediately by negotiations, mediation, etc. that could avert "comsummation" of the war declaration.