Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!whuxl!whuxlm!akgua!gatech!seismo!mcvax!boring!lambert From: lambert@boring.UUCP Newsgroups: net.math Subject: Re: Groups, Alternative Definitions? Message-ID: <6817@boring.UUCP> Date: Sat, 8-Mar-86 13:26:48 EST Article-I.D.: boring.6817 Posted: Sat Mar 8 13:26:48 1986 Date-Received: Tue, 11-Mar-86 01:49:31 EST References: <370@ihnet.UUCP> Reply-To: lambert@boring.UUCP (Lambert Meertens) Distribution: net Organization: CWI, Amsterdam Lines: 32 Apparently-To: rnews@mcvax In article <370@ihnet.UUCP> eklhad@ihnet.UUCP writes: > If we modify the definition of a group slightly, do new groups arise? > [...] > There are four possible "weakened" definitions: > identity inverse > 1. X*E = X X*Y = E > 2. E*X = X X*Y = E > [...] > If I have not made any serious blunders, each weaker definition implies the > other three, resurrecting the original concept. There is an interesting difference between 1, which has the unit and inverse on the same side of the * operation, and 2, where unit and inverse are on different sides. For case 1, it is not necessary to assume uniqueness of unit and inverse; the existence of at least one unit for the whole "group" and at least one inverse for each element is sufficient. Uniqueness can then be proved. For 2, we only get a group if we assume uniqueness of the unit E. If we just assume the existence of *some* unit E, a counterexample is found by defining X*Y = Y. This operation is associative: (X*Y)*Z = Z = Y*Z = X*(Y*Z). Each element is a left unit. Take an arbitrary one and call it E. Then * satisfies both axioms in 2: E*X = X, and X*Y = E for Y = E. (All this is well known; at least it was part of the first lecture in an introductory algebra class I once took.) -- Lambert Meertens ...!{seismo,okstate,garfield,decvax,philabs}!lambert@mcvax.UUCP CWI (Centre for Mathematics and Computer Science), Amsterdam